[QUOTE] porl wibbled ... You have to pass the test, but frankly a strategically shaved chimp could do that,[/QUOTE] Not _so_ sure of that. I never actually did the IAM version, but was effectively tested to RoSPA silver standard (IAM=bronze) by my bro and it does require a very different attitude and full-on concentration. The running commentary, including noting the state of the roads, the speed limits as they change, all hazards and anything else you're thinking about or rescting to takes a bit of practice, I can tell you. But I don't think the IAM insist on that, particularly not for bikes. Although I agree that some of the members/observers generally drive like aforementioned chimp.