Please explain this.

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Fuzzy Rider, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. Fuzzy Rider

    Fuzzy Rider Guest

    I'm buying my teenager a Kawasaki KLX140L and I may want to hop on it
    occasionally although I realize it's not an adult bike.

    However, there's a rear suspension feature that's a part of the
    KLX140L that perhaps could help carry my slighty overweight posterior
    without bottoming out every time i hit an anthill.

    It's called the....UNI-TRAK® linkage system and single shock with
    piggyback reservoir, fully adjustable preload and 22-way rebound
    damping.

    How exactly does that work? Does it mean I could "pump up" the rear
    suspension to handle my increased weight when I'm doing my joyriding
    and then return it to another level for my 155 pound boy?

    Thanks in advance for any clarifications.

    -Fuzzy
     
    Fuzzy Rider, Nov 27, 2010
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  2. The linkages' geometry provide a 'rising rate' suspension. The more
    wheel movement, the more damping, basically. Google for a diagram if
    you're that interested. All manufacturers have different versions of the
    same system - Kawasaki's is called Uni-Trak, Honda Pro-Link, Suzuki Full
    Floater, etc etc

    Yes. Although as it's a small bike, its maximum settings might still be
    a bit on the low side for a. er, hefty adult.

    RTFM.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 27, 2010
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  3. Maybe.

    How corpulent are you, anyway?

    Rising rate suspension linkages automatically increase preload on the
    rear spring as the swing arm moves toward the seat under load, similar
    to what a *true progressive* spring would do.

    With rising rate, the single rate rear spring doesn't have to be
    preloaded so stiff that the rear wheel chatters over a graded
    washboard road.

    That's *theory*, it's not a stairway to heaven for fat dudes that want
    to ride a bike that's too little for them.

    When riders first get a dirt bike with rising rate suspension, they
    are amazed at how high the seat is off the ground and most riders
    don't have a 35-inch inseam.

    But then they *sit on the bike*, and the rear suspension *sags* 2 or 3
    inches...

    If you weigh 210 pounds and the rear suspension sags 3 inches when you
    just sit on the seat, almost half the suspension travel is *used up*
    right there.

    If you go out and do some jumps and hard riding and bottom the
    suspension several times, you could damage the *foot valve* in the
    bottom of the shock and repairing or replacing it would be very
    expensive.

    Don't ask how I know that...

    Dirt Rider magazine spent a whole buch of $$$ and did a whole bunch of
    suspension mods to a KLX140L in order to overcome the fact that it's
    *under-suspended* for the dirt (or for average sized adult men).

    One guy was wondering how a "pit bike" like the KLX140 was selected
    for their
    "do-it-all" shoot out....

    http://www.dirtrider.com/reviews/di..._bike/dirt_rider_post_torture_evaluation.html

    BTW, don't pay any attention to the fatheaded Neil Murray, who styles
    himself as "The Older Gentleman."

    He's never ridden a dirtbike in the desert in his whole fifty years of
    being a fathead
    on this unwilling planet...
     
    schwarzesonne, Nov 27, 2010
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  4. Seat height has *nothing* to do with rising rate rear ends.

    Krusty gets it wrong again non-shocker.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 27, 2010
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  5. Go find yourself another hanky prancer and tell it to him.
     
    schwarzesonne, Nov 27, 2010
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  6. Fuzzy Rider

    Fuzzy Rider Guest

    Regarding my corpulence, I'm 6'2" and weigh 230 and my inseam is 33".
    Also, I never, yes NEVER will subject that kid's bike to anything
    except flat trails and the smoothest ones I can find. It's just for
    when we go camping and I decide to take a short spin (if I can get it
    away from the kid).

    -FR
     
    Fuzzy Rider, Nov 28, 2010
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  7. Well, dial up all the preload you can, and have him measure the amount
    of sag with you sitting on the bike and subject the sag from the
    maximum travel and you;ll know how big a bump or pothole you can ride
    over without bottoming the rear end.
    Well then, buy a 600cc dual sport for yourself and enjoy the
    togetherness of riding with your son.

    But don't let him go crazy with dirt riding to the point where he
    wants to race motocross or extreme motocross stunting.

    That's a sure way to get hurt in the dirt.
     
    schwarzesonne, Nov 28, 2010
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