Pirelli worth it?

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Caerus, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. Caerus

    Caerus Guest

    I'm thinking about replacing my tires on my r6 with those
    new Pirelli Diablo Corsa. Are they worth it or should I
    be looking for another brand for street use.

    How are they on wet surfaces?

    I'm sure almost anything is better than the stock Dunlop
    that come with the cycle.
     
    Caerus, Sep 10, 2005
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    Larry xlax Lovisone Guest

    Shortly after its launch, the Pirelli Diablo Corsa was one of MCN's subjects of
    test in a massive tyre test that they performed. It achieved an unheard of 100%
    score with the Pirelli Diablo on 98% and the Metzeler Sportec M1 on 96%. These
    tyres are in a class of their own. Again in June 2005, the Pirelli Diablo Corsa
    was No. 1

    http://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/Tyre Diablo Corsa PD.php?cat=tyres&page=1
    They don't look it but it's a fact... a tire grippy in dry is also grippy in the
    wet up until hydro plane speed... consequently track tires offers more grip in
    the wet than a touring tire up to hydro plane speed... and that speed is some
    where in the neighborhood of 80 mph depending on weight...

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    Cam Penner Guest

    But what if there is sand or gravel on the road?
     
    Cam Penner, Sep 10, 2005
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    Larry xlax Lovisone Guest

    I'd avoid both gravel and sand...

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    Michael Sierchio Guest

    Modification of Larry's claim that tires that grip in the dry
    grip in the wet -- temper that with the knowledge that some
    compounds are more hydrophilic than others. Diablos and Diablo
    Corsas have good manners in the wet. Right up to the limit
    of adhesion.
    But Dunlop DOT race tires -- the D208GPs -- are the best street
    legal tire, bar none. If you're looking for a "70% track day
    tire, the other 30% of the time wishing you were on the track"
    I'd get the Dunlops.

    Going down one notch from DOT race, I would place the Michelin
    Pilot Power at the top. Avoid the Pilot Sports, they have a
    defective tread design in the front that causes cupping. But
    they're two notches down, anyway.
     
    Michael Sierchio, Sep 10, 2005
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    Greek Shipping Magnets Guest

    Voice of experience eh? ;)
     
    Greek Shipping Magnets, Sep 10, 2005
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    Larry xlax Lovisone Guest

    Larry xlax Lovisone, Sep 12, 2005
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    pablo Guest

    It's all a function of what the riding style is and what the priorities
    (performance, mileage ..) are.

    I for one am veyr aware that these days I don't need the stickiest tire out
    there. I have plenty of fun on sport touring rubber these days, which sticks
    more than I am willing to test, really.

    I am a big Bridgestone fan - ever since they came out with the BT54s a while
    back, to me they have provided a fantastic compromise between durability and
    performance. These days I can recommend the BT020 (which I thin is their
    latest sport-touring rubber). The Metzeler Z6 I currently have on my R11S is
    also excellent, but I've only put 2,000 miles on them, so can't cattest to
    their durability. But they look very good - I remember the Michelin Pilot
    Sports were through after 4,000 miles or so.

    I haven't had Pirellis forever.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Sep 13, 2005
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    Michael Sierchio Guest

    Jim -

    You snipped too much -- I *did* say "70% track" -- and as much as I hated
    the Pilot Sports that were OEM, and liked the Diablos that were the first
    set of replacements, I *love* the Pilot Powers (made in Spain, how about that?).
    They work very nicely in the wet, are tolerant of temp cycling, and pretty
    good on twisties, even when the temps are in the 50s and 60s.

    Anyway, my point really was this -- some brands make excellent tires for
    a particular application, while another brand might be better in other
    circumstances. Dunlops, Metzlers, Michelins, Bridgestones, etc. all make
    decent tires. I've had experience with the first three, and haven't had
    a reason to try Bridgestones, which is the only reason I don't recommend
    them.

    - Michael
     
    Michael Sierchio, Sep 13, 2005
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