Ping them what knows Bandits and their chains

Chain adjustment looks pretty simple

Centre Stand
Undo two large axle nuts
wind allen bolts until suitable tightness achieved
Re-tighten axle nuts
Check for straight

Anything I'm missing, and what sort of tension is recommended?

TIA
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Catman says...

Youve got it right so far. You don't have to undo the axle nut by that
much because the adjustment is difficult to do if it's too loose. The
chain tightens by quite a lot as you do the axle nut back up.

I go for about 2 inches of slack with the bike on the stand. When I wind
the adjuster bolts I do each one an identical amount of turns inwards to
keep the wheel alignment the same.

 

The Nordwset is a pain for the chain tightening like that. I find
wedging a suitable large socket between the lower chain run and the
swinging arm while I tighten up the axle nut helps.

 

Hmmm, it's probably not that loose then although it could be a smidge
tighter. Odd 'grinding' type feeling (not noise, at least not audible)
from pegs while accelerating. New chain and sprockets possibly, or
something else I have to worry about?

TIA

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Ta. It's been a while since I needed to adjust a chain. Well over 3
years at least.


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Catman says...

It might be overtight, check it again with someone about your weight
sitting on the bike. You want about 1 1/2 inches of slack with someone
on board. Lube the chain as well.

 

Cheers

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Perhaps if they sit gently



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Sounds like it's the same as mine (Suzuki GSX750F), except I only have
to undo one nut to loosen the axle.

For alignment, the graduated markings on each side should suffice.
Recommended tension? Not too tight, not too loose. I generally set
mine to about 3-4 cm of up/down on the bottom middle of the chain,
whilst it's on the centre stand. This is probably on the tight side
but loosens up a bit once it's back on the ground.

Use a torque wrench to avoid over tightening the axle bolt.

 

Eh? That's impossible, unless GSXs have got some sort of ultra-weird
swingarm geometry going on.


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*ding*

the only thing I'd add is that when I was measuring the amount of
slack, I'd also do so moving the wheel round to check for tight spots.

 

I called into a bike shop the other day and the guy was changing the clutch
plates on his Hinda magna. After slipping the plates in the basket, he
bolted the end plate on loosely and then headed off for the torque wrench.

"So what's the torque setting" I asked him. "About 50 lbs/ft" he said. I
questioned that as it seemed a "bit" excessive, but he knew best evn though
he obviously hadn't RTFM. He bent down to add the final tightness and I half
closed my eyes..

I said "Just tight enough to strip the threads, then back off 1/4 of a turn"
He yanked down on the first bolt and snapped the moulding off the inside of
the basket. Job fucked.

What's the fucking point of using a torque wrench if you don't know the
proper setting? Because it looks "professional" of course.


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Tough crowd today ...

"Use a [properly adjusted] torque wrench ... "

 

I might be missing your point here, but ...

Swingarm pivot is behind the front sprocket. If the swingarm's
hanging, it shortens the rear sprocket -> front sprocket distance. Not
by a lot, but enough. The chain's looser with both wheels on the
ground than when on the centrestand.

SWK's will be along in a minute to tell us we're both wrong.

 

No I need to get rid of that bike and go back to one with a proper
lubrication system

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Err... so you're saying that when the sprockets are closest together
(wheel hanging), the chain's tighter than when the sprockets are
further apart (wheels on ground)?

Or are you saying that on your bike the end of the swingarm is higher
than the pivot point when the wheels are on the ground? That's the only
way the chain could be looser with both wheels on the ground, but that
would be...well...weird.



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<fx: Looks at wheels, swingarm assembly and chain, re-reads post>

Yeah you're right. My bad. I should have stopped at "3-4 cm of play
when it's on the centrestand".

 

Ian White says...

You need about 50mm at least of play when the bike is on the centre
stand

 

Especially if sir has a Blackbird. I was surprised by how much it
changed from sidestand to just held vertical. On the centrestand it
needs about three feet of slack.
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You might qualify for the position, though

C

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