[QUOTE="Lozzo"] Rowdy says...[QUOTE] [QUOTE] Livingston is the worst place in the world that I have ever visited, second is Dundee. You should work for the Scotttish[1] Tourist Board [1]American spelling[/QUOTE] I do. Thanks for undoing all the good work Lozz ;-) Rowdy[/QUOTE] My pleasure. I forgot to say that every single time I have crossed the border into Scotland, it has pissed down with rain for at least one full day. A thoroughly detestable place that I shall not enjoy visiting again.[/QUOTE] Oh please! the run up the west coast - Mallaig, Sky, Fort William, Oban, Kinlochbervie, Bettyhill, Thurso, Inverness, Great Glen, Glasgow with a bit of decent weather its the about best 3 or 4 days biking you could ever have. not a Gatso in site and maybe 2 plodmobiles in the whole route. 'Hog