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Face it, as long as Rossi will stay with Honda HRC, he will be the champion.
This is why all MotoGP fans hope he will leave to another...

 

I saw Bayliss go into the turn wide, and stepped out the back as he
desperately tried to save a bad entry that I suppose was originally
designed to pass Melandri, though he was threading a needle if he
succeeded. On the way down, Bayliss touched Melandri's back tire, so
it wasn't even a case of Melandri stopping suddenly and Bayliss
touching then crashing. Bayliss was in the process of crashing when he
made contact with Melandri.

Bayliss' 2 crashes before the race indicated a rider who didn't know
when to cut his losses.

 

The commentators referenced the fact that Rossi was using a "soft" rear while
Nicky was using a hard rear. That could explain some of the difference.

-Dirt-

 

Have you ever raced? It is hard to get lots of info
to the rider via the pitboard. I do agree that racers
always have an excuse.

 

Or for a couple of laps you show "Rossi Penalty". Then the adjusted
positions and time.

I think Capirossi actually didn't have anything more in the bag and
saying he didn't know was a way for everyone (him and Ducati) to save
face.

 

Yes, I have been racing at what should be considered a club level allthough
it actually says I was number 3 in the Norwegian cup for 250 standard bikes
this year.
I've also been racing against the clock to make win although I was behind.
Although we used a bord half the size I got quite a lot information from it.

As others suggested there are so many ways to tell you you are leading due
to penalties or other circumstanses. There are two options, either he saw it
and make excuses or he's simply that stupid that he doesen't understand.
Unfortunatly I guess the later is the most likly reason.

/MBE

 

From lap 15 or 16 on(I think, I don't have time to watch it again right now)
he showed us
everything he had and no one was able to stay with him on the straight...
What is amazing,
if it's true, was that he was running a softer tire than Nicky and was still
able to rip off the fastest lap
on the last lap! Does he get "special" tires also? it would appear that's
the case. I mean he just ran
ten or so lap's in the 31's hitting over 200 mph on the straight and has
enough tire left to go the
fastest on the last lap? Makes me wonder... But anyway you look at it, one
hell of
a show was put on by the best in the business.
T3

 

Well, when he passed the leader on the brakes there were certainly no one
who could keep up with him in the corners. That also suggest a higher exit
speed that result in a higher top speed. All this can be done without as
much as a single extra hp.

They all get special tires if you compare to what you and I can buy. My
guess is that he siply did the right choise. We've seen before that it is
possible to ride hard with soft rear tire.

Amen

 

Well, if I understand the reports correctly he chosed a softer tire than the
rest. I'm sure you agree that going down a step in compound softness usually
would mean a lot more than the latest adjustment from Michelin.

I guess thats where we totaly disagree. While you seem to suggest that it's
all in the equipment my opinion is that there is no equipment advantage that
that can be developed that fast and work that well and make that big a
difference, not under the current rules. That would be a miracle. Not to
mention he must be a supernatural doing all the nesessarry testing and
adjusting of the new parts that must arrive as an endless stream from Honda.
I'm sure that he from time to time might have better equipment but it
doesn't explain his consistency as others get upgraded as well.

Now at the end of the season there is no reason for Honda to continue
suplying (only) Rossi with the latest gadgets. Everybody seems to think his
on his way out and Hondas policy change for next year would be even more
valid in the current situation. Honda have everyting to win by making their
other riders look good when the championship is allready in the box.

All in all, when someone blame/explain everyting on the eqipment despite
competitions constant upgrades and given the limitied time factor and
development level these machines are on, I get very suspisious. There is no
way in hell you can make me believe that someone can come up with invisible
upgrades for the same base machinery that that fast that make that much a
difference.

On the other hand, the bike is buildt around Rossi, and from what I've heard
his ability to comunicate with the tech-staff under testing is exeptional.
These two factors is certainly contributing to his success.

So, if you add up minor improvments, with the by far best setup, the best
tire choice, the best support and by far the best rider, my guess is that
you can on rear occations see races like this one when it all come together
like that.

/MBE

 

"Mark N" <> a écrit dans le message de ...
I just don't see Rossi's superiority making the

The Honda are the same but there are some differences if you look at deeper.
For example Giberneau runs with White Power and Rossi with Showa. The
exhaust manufacturers are also different for the 3 Honda teams, as the data
acquisition systems.

 

I know that we'll never know the issue but I've found "bizarre" what has
happened to Laconi in the last WSB round. He had only to finish in the 10th
to secure his 3rd place in the championship. The only ways to not achieve
that were a DNF or ...a pit stop for destroyed tire.

 

So... what...? If things weren't as good, things wouldn't be as good.
uh-huh.

To win world championships and be the best in the world, you have to be
good at all of it. Not just on the track on the last corner but in
negotiating the best deal, attracting the best people round you, putting
in the testing time, getting the factory to give you what you need,
making sure there's enough money by attracting the sponsors, doing
mindfucks on the other riders and on and on. Rossi and his team are good
at this stuff. If you took some or all of this away, Rossi would, at
least to start with, appear less good.

Why is this surprising?

 

What we need is Mark's-Motorsport-Affirmative-Action-Program.
Disadvantaged American youth can be adopted by a JIS big brother
(Biaggi is single, and he can afford a nanny) and helped to overcome
their humble and slow circumstances. Yes, Edwards has been racing
motorcycles since he could barely walk, but Monkey Boy was smelling
2-stroke fumes in his diapers.

 

I'm sorry to be so lazy about this tread (friend tape-delayed the Phillip
Island event for more than a week). In any case, my point regarding the
race is that it amazes me that Rossi didn't get a stop & go (so everyone
could orient themselves in the terrain, so to speak), and besides, since
we're living in a hi-tec century, why is it so hard to get a communicator
hookup to the riders?! Evidentially Capirossi didn't know he had a 14
seconds lead on Rossi. Just amazing.

-- peer