photos of Camera Cops hiding behind truck @ 1 in morning

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Phew, thanks John! I was on shaky ground on that one......
Clem
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John Littler wrote in message ...

 

Yer
closed schools and hospitals.
Sacked teachers nurses and other necessary people.
privatised all the state's infrastructure hence creating a huge revenue
hole rather than restructuring them and making hem more efficient.
Made dodgy contracts with shittylink and the privatised railways which
is now biting us on the bum.
Made it so that any revenue raised by any future governments have to
come from other sources like speed cameras and gambling.
I'd say kennet was a marvel.

 

Who are you replying to??????????

 

Call me a doubting Thomas, but I was sure you were in Vic by the time of a
the election.

Hey, I like Kennet, I would have voted for him over Bracks, but I too was
not in Victoria at the time.

Despite my political leanings, Kennet had (and still has) his heart in the
right place (though I am biased).

Hammo

 

You win a first aid in Vic, or a car!!

Hammo

 

"Smee" wrote

small minded perverts who run around at 1am in the morning with their
cameras?

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 10:03:08 +1000

So you *know* when it's going too fast.

But changing down a gear is Too Hard?

Jeez!

I'm always amazed by people who are proud of not having the skills
required to get a P-Plate. Who are either "gearbox? whassat?" or "I'm
on a bike I can't manage, and am so scared of traffic and so slow of
comprehension that I can't manage to spare a second to check the speedo"

I prefer to travel at 70 my own self. If I need to go more slowly I
drop down a gear. It's not that hard to do.

zebee

 

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Zebee Johnstone wrote in message ...

I didn't say I was proud of it, and I didn't say I couldn't do it either.
What I said was that it takes some effort (and that, for my UJM, other
speeds are more natural); as a response to Rusty's "inept" charge which
inferred that it was easy.

Another fly-off-the-handle-without-understanding-the-post-properly eh?
Clem

 

Are you telling me that a regular glance at the speedo isn't enough to tell
you how fast you are going and allow you to alter speed accordingly?

I understand what you mean - I have the same problem when I drive my car (as
opposed to riding the bike). It doesn't happen that often, and I have to
keep a more careful watch on my speed. However, the slightly added attention
to speed doesn't really have that great an effect on my situational
awareness. I can only speak from my own experience here, which does in no
way negate yours.

"Studying" the speedo would have quite an effect on said situational
awareness. My point was that this _should_ be unnecessary.

I'll repeat that I don't agree with draconian enforcement policies. I do,
however, think that one should be aware that one is exceeding the speed
limit when one is more than say (arbitrary number pulled out of hat) 10km/h
over said limit.

 

That "inept" was somewhat tongue in cheek. Sorry - should have included

I didn't mean that it takes no effort, just that it should not take so much
effort that it detracts significantly from the driver/rider's ability to
comprehend his/her surroundings.

 

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At 80 and above; no worries, but at 50 and 60 I have to give it constant
attention (unless I've got other vehicles around me to be markers).
Just yesterday I was beside and slightly in front of an unmarked cop-car on
a long slightly downhill straight road with no other traffic and I watched
my little digital speedo moving from 55-65-ish and back as I was trying my
hardest to hold an exact 60.
I couldn't do it.
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I believe it should be unnecessary too but if they're really doing this 3km
tolerance thingo then the only way I can safely stay within the limits is to
aim for 10km under (like a lot of drivers are doing) and concentrate,
concentrate, concentrate.
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My bike runs happier at 80 than 60 in top gear. That's why I am in fourth in
60 zones. It happily maintains 60 in fourth with very little effort on my
part. Getting into top gear is not compulsory, you know.

Theo

 

Call me a doubting Thomas, but I was sure you were in Vic by the time of a the election.
If I was here then, I was happily not enrolled in Vic at the time I
should say then cause 100% sure I didnt vote!

We agree 100% there.

I agree... not scared to make tough decisions that would lose him the
seat to get things as they should be.

people are too fucking greedy to realise this.

 

As I've said, the 3 clicks tolerance is ridiculous. 10's reasonable. 5's
getting a little harsh. All in my opinion.

So you see, you still fall within what I would call an acceptable margin of
error (assuming that the speed limit was 60!).

If one finds that the speedo is taking up too much of one's attention, then
I agree that the only viable solution is to slow down.

What are we arguing about?

 

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Not compulsory no, but it is natural to select the highest gear the engine
can happily pull.
(There's that word again)
Clem

 

No it's not, mine is happier in 3rd at 60

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:01:03 +1000

well yes.

Which is not top gear when you don't want to do the speeds that are the
lowest top can pull.

Or you buy a Squarial, take your pick!

Zebee

 

"Knobdoodle" wrote

Didn't you just tell us your bike was not happy in that gear at that speed?

Theo

 

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Did I? I thought I said that the bike felt more natural at 70 and that it
was difficult to hold it at exactly 50 or 60.
I doubt that dropping it a gear and putting it further into it's powerband
would make it EASIER to hold a speed.
Clem

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:15:42 +1000

Umm... Clem... if it's easy to hold it at 70 in one gear, why wouldn't
it be easier to hold it at similar revs in a lower gear?

Zebee