Petseal etc.

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by sweller, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. sweller

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Wrong. There's a world of difference between the work needed to make a
    fuel tank from scratch, and that needed to effect a decent repair.

    Oh dear, Kenny boi looks a fool again...

    Oddly, I've recently investigated this in rather more depth than you
    evidently have, after having to deal with the problem of the bottom of
    my Ducati's fuel tank rotting out (badly), and there being no new
    replacements available on the planet, and no carbon/GF/composite
    pattern units either (as there are for some other Ducati models).

    Pick up the repaired tank on Saturday, actually, Can't wait.

    Oh dear, Kenny boi looks a fool again.

    Now, remind us why you can't skim brake discs, please :)
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 9, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    I've kf'd the twat now, but I wonder how many MotoGP teams use alloy
    tanks rather than composite?
     
    Krusty, Jun 9, 2010
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  3. sweller

    Paul - xxx Guest

    It's in the pan ...
     
    Paul - xxx, Jun 9, 2010
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  4. sweller

    Hog Guest

    Indeed it's a *Plonk*

    Note he was never able to quote a brand of product which met this mythical
    higher standard.
     
    Hog, Jun 9, 2010
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  5. sweller

    Roper Guest

    I guess you know about as much about MotoGP as you know about
    restoring bikes! The fact that carbon tanks are required by the rules
    to be fitted with very expensive internal fuel cells to guard against
    problems related to crash damage, means that no current MotoGp bikes
    are using anything other than carbon covers over alloy inners.
     
    Roper, Jun 9, 2010
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  6. sweller

    Roper Guest

    Putting a repair section into the bottom of rotted tank isnt really a
    repair its a simple bodge, that pretty much anyone with basic
    metalwork skills would be able to do themselves.

    The gulf between the abilities of the average bodger, and the skills
    of someone able to make something like a fuel tank from scratch are
    enormous, but I guess ridiculous TV progs such as American Chopper
    seem to suggest high end work is easy for almost
    anyone..................its not, and I doubt very much anyone posting
    here has ever seen any really high class resto work.
     
    Roper, Jun 9, 2010
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  7. sweller

    Beav Guest

    The cheque is in the post and I promise I .....
     
    Beav, Jun 9, 2010
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  8. sweller

    TOG@Toil Guest

    No, it's a repair.
    Wrong again. The metal used in Ducati tanks is very, very thin, and
    it's very easy when welding to damage the existing metal. In fact,
    it's so tricky that the first guy I contacted (some geezer in Scotland
    who builds one-off tanks for classic racers) said he preferred not to
    work on Ducati tanks.

    Furthermore, the new section must carry the mounts for the fuel pump
    (which is sited inside the tank, on the bottom) as well as the
    necessary (metal) pipework which runs from it to the delivery lines.

    Then the repair must be properly tested, of course, before being
    refinished.

    Hey, Kenny boi, you got it wrong *again*. This is a bit of a habit,
    isn't it?
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 9, 2010
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  9. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Solvent? What is this solvent of which you speak?
    You'd be wrong though. using an English wheel was once a passion of mine,
    but as very few people are willing to pay for the time to do it anymore, I
    gave up doing it. As for an alloy tank, it's actually a piece of piss if you
    can use a hammer and a gas axe and know what soap is good for.

    I can see you really know all there is to know about bodywork, so I'll leave
    this argument totally defeated. Oh btw, have you got any pictures or
    testaments of your own work you'd like to share?
     
    Beav, Jun 9, 2010
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  10. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Someone once said that a trained monkey could paint too, but I haven't seen
    any of your work, so I can't really comment on the veracity of that
    statement.
    And when did making a MotoGP tank become part of any restoration work?
    Oh riiight! I get you now.
     
    Beav, Jun 9, 2010
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  11. because they sink after the third bounce :)
     
    steve robinson, Jun 9, 2010
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  12. sweller

    CT Guest

    Hear, hear.
     
    CT, Jun 9, 2010
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  13. sweller

    Beav Guest

    American Chopper is high end? Like **** it is. The only tool they're truly
    familiar with is a fucking hammer.

    I *MUST* tell my son that. After all, he spent his time as an apprentice in
    one of (of not THE best) known classic car restoration companies in the UK
    and he obviously doesn't know what really high end resto's are all about.
    Dino's, Silverstone's original XK 120's, 140's and 150's we've restored them
    all. I'm not going to blow my trumpet, but my son has taken 3 Concourse de'
    Elegance trophies for his restoration of Jaguars but I'm sure he'll be happy
    to be informed that he knows **** all.
     
    Beav, Jun 9, 2010
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  14. sweller

    Beav Guest

    As per your instructions, I use only an epoxy based solvent free product for
    the job. As to the "why" of it, why do you *think* I use it? Because it
    smells nice, why else?

    And this from what, a chemist or a fucking wanker? Anyway, less yakk and
    more show. I want to see what *you've* contributed to the world of
    motorcycle life. Your words mean **** all.
     
    Beav, Jun 9, 2010
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  15. I have done a bit of restoration and repair myself , its not just
    welding a bit of metal in , any clown after a few hours practice can
    do that its the techneques used to weld very thin steel stopping the
    original metalwork buckling , cutting and shaping the replacement
    steel to match the orignal the ability to weld neatly so any
    subsequent linishing doesnt **** another hole through elseware
    ,making the welds air tight .

    To anybody who can achieve that i'll take my hat off to them
     
    steve robinson, Jun 9, 2010
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  16. Bows before the master
     
    steve robinson, Jun 9, 2010
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    'Kin'ell. Impressed.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 9, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    It's amazing how he has managed to rise against such adversity
     
    Hog, Jun 9, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    and in the face of so many apostrophes.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jun 9, 2010
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    darsy Guest

    it's an atrocity.
     
    darsy, Jun 9, 2010
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