Petrol price protest proceeds

I wasn't aware of that, but my first reactions are:

(1) Fucking right they should and
(2) It's a bit bloody late for the ones who lost their businesses, and
I bet they don't get compensation.

 

Depends if they can afford to go to the High court I expect.

 

Dunno. Like I said, car diesel engines don't have CRTs AFAIK, because
they are quite expensive pieces of kit. I remember that the Government
of the day (whichever it was) decreed that diesels were nasty and
dirty because of the particulate emissions. They'd just taken the lead
out of petrol, so they were looking for another automotive target.

This was in the days before CR diesel engines, btw. Early-mid 1990s,
IIRC. So they hammered diesel. Of course, now that diesel has turned
out to be a relatively clean fuel - really, it is - you'd think they'd
encourage its use, at least by shifting the tax burden back onto
petrol, but of course it hasn't happened.

 

I doubt very much if we'll see them helping to re-establish the
businesses they forced to go bust because of their illegal punitive
measures.

Cunts, all of them. When politicians and civil servants dream up a
wheeze like that and it is later found to be unlawful, the fuckers
should be personally liable for damages.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

So why is it whenever I see a vehicle with visible exhaust smoke
(apart from condensation) it's almost always a diesel?

 

Badly maintained? Old? Both?

A bit like you, really......

 

Nonsense. I don't emit visible pollutants. I may need a hand start now
and then, but I don't see that as a problem.

 

Silent but deadly, though....

Eeeewwwwww..

 

They have just scrapped vehicle tax here - its gone straight onto the
fuel instead. An increase of 15p per litre.

At the same time, duty was finally introduced on diesel -14p.

Previous cost per litre : Approx 52p

Now, approx 80p - but no road tax

 

Just Googled: as I thought, it's not lubricity that's the problem: veg
oil does have a very high lubricity. The problem is coked up jets and
gumming. Also, straight veg oil has a totally different viscosity.

 

Well, there's pollution and there's pollution. Soot's only going to
affect a few asthmatics and who cares about them [1]? There are also
greater NOX emissions from a diesel, which you can't see. Overall
though, hydrocarbon, CO and CO2 emissions are lower with diesel.

<fx: goes to fire up TDi and breathe sweet, heady fumes>

[1] Tongue-in-cheek, in case I inadvertently upset anyone again[2].
[2] Obviously deliberately upsetting someone is a different matter.

 

I think this is the bit that used to worry me most about them.

I'll need to get myself educated a bit more, then, before buying
another car - by which time everything will have changed again.

 

That too. The nozzle 'oles on CR systems are utterly tiny compared to
conventional injectors and I wouldn't take the chance with it. Bosch
pumps of the trad design and the associated older tech injectors are
much more tolerant of various fuels - they can still coke up, but a
running regime of 50/50 vegoil/diesel plus a goodly dollop of ATF in the
tank seems to keep things clean enough.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

Ah. Thanks for that.

 

I used about 2500 litre of fuel a year in the car. On that basis
using those prices, it's cheaper for me to pay road tax.

 

VED is a bollocks, appropriate for nothing.
A fuel tax relates to miles of wear on the road. What I want is a fuel tax
that equates to, and only to, expenditure on the roads.

 

Where do you feel the shortfall in tax this would lead to should be made
back up?

 

I hope that day never arrives.

 

Definitely.

I reckon I'd be a bit worse off but it's a far fairer way of doing it.
It would be even better is the tax was hypothecated.

 

What shortfall?