Petrol price protest proceeds

They're at it again, and they're not giving in, it seems:

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/protesters-to-fire-warning-shot-to-the-government-88.html

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip

Given that four scruffy blokes and a small dog turned up for their last
"effort" I think we have little to fear.

Wankers.

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Um that was last month. Hardly anybody turned up, so you may have missed
it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7145581.stm

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The speccy Geordie twat.

 

That was before christmas , and half a dozen blokes stood by the road didn't
really impress or scare anyone.

Since then they have , erm , given up

 

In the first paragraph of the document to which I referred, there is
this paragraph:

David Handley, spokesperson for group, warned, “it's our intention to
come back in January and let's put it like this, it won't be quite as
peaceful as it's going to be tomorrow.”

There's something stirring in the undergrowth.

 

Will it bring fuel back to 70p/litre though

 

Shave all your pubes off. It's the only way.

 

You like the (double) taxation of fuel as well then?

I'd probably support a couple dozen suicide petrol tanker attacks on Brown
and his cronies. That's what it takes, true fanaticism and a complete
disregard for own life and safety.

 

Yes wouldn't we all. Can we get back to the thread now?

 

I don't - it should be higher, the additional revenue to be spent on
higher pensions and Social Services.

 

Now you're just being your usual provocative and silly self just to get
a rise from the "audience". I don't know why you persist with this line
of "reasoning" when all it does is make people ignore you. I just switch
off when you go into these sorts of comments.

 

Point of order. The original fuel protests and blockades were, for the
most part, conducted with the near-total (if tacit) approval of the
haulage industry.

This industry had been singled out for attention by governments that
first increased the level of VED to about £5000 for a basic articulated
truck (or five times the level elsewhere in Europe), decided
(erroneously) that diesel engines were to be discouraged and therefore
increased the excise duty of diesel with the effect that it *still*
costs more in the UK than petrol.

This is actually the complete opposite to any other country I can think
of, where it's recognised as a relatively green fuel (and that's without
taking biodiesel into account) and its use is encouraged by lower tax.

The government also decided to impose a fine of £2000/head on every
illegal immigrant found in a truck at Dover, irrespective of whether the
driver knew (or had good cuase to suspect) they were there. It was just
"Right, five Iraqis, that's ten grand, please, and we impound the truck
until you pay."

This actually drove some small hauliers out of business. Yes, it did.

All this combined to reduce the competitiveness of British logistics
companies which had been, in the early-mid 1990s, the most efficint in
Europe, if not the world. British haulage companies were starting to
take over French firms. Government policy, misguided as it was, killed
that.

The fuel protests were entirely legal. There was no violent picket line
behaviour. Tony Blair went *wild* and asked the police to intervene, and
Senior Plod told him where to go: that his men were not being used to
prevent entirely lawful democratic activity, and anyway, how can you
*force* someone to drive a truck?

The Government was utterly caught, and the protestors stopped *just*
before society melted down, because they saw where it was going. It
wasn't really organised, as such: it was just a groundswell of opinion
and anger that saw people united.

Now, the protestors since then have been a total bunch of arse, and the
haulage industy disowns them, and their attempts at bringing about a
repeat of 2001 are derisory. And rightly so.

But trust me, the original protests have nothing to do with the prats
now. And they made a valid point. I was deeply involved in this business
at the time.

 

Wait until this baby kicks in in just over a months' time:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/2538.aspx

 

.... with the exception of the US, actually. Diesel there is also more
expensive than at least the basic regular "gas".

 

So you have to either 1)have a Low Emissions vehicle, or 2)have an exemption
or a 100% discount, or 3)pay the charge. Is this particularly difficult?

 

Hog wibbled

I'm currently paying 56p per litre (Sainsburys retail) for Pura (100%
Rapeseed) vegetable oil to use in the Discovery. Use it at about 35 to
50% mix.

'tis good stuff, after a fuel/oil filter swap to get the crap out as
the veg oil cleans the engine up.

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Do you do any treatment of it , or just chuck it in with the regular diesel?

 

I'm sure you don't. With your disposable income, free transport,
business/first class trips to the far east, it hardly amounts to much
for people in your position. Think a bit more about the general
populous.

I agree that we'll have to "get used" to it - I don't have to like it
though.

Think of public transport outside of London for a minute. Oh wait,
there's not a coheneret PT policy outside of London is there?

Likewise.

Your above rant comes across just as badly as any Daily Mail-esque post.

 

If you're asking for the reason I think you're asking.... don't.

PD lumps don't like veg. oil. There's even a warning not to use
commercially available bio-diesel in them.

 

Well someone's got to speak up for them old folks.