[QUOTE="sweller"] [QUOTE="Mick"][QUOTE] You really are a very stupid person. Blaming the gov't for you own stupidity [1] just confirms, for me, that you're the type that thinks the Daily Mail is a paper for civilised 'grown ups'. Which is about as low, in the intelligence stakes, as you can get.[/QUOTE] Now, I'm not a regular reader of any particular paper, I do tend to read what ever is available on the Internet or at my local pub so you could say my taste in news papers is very catholic (please note small 'c').[/QUOTE] keyword=civilised[/QUOTE] Everything is relative. After all the Americans look upon themselves as civilised.[QUOTE] [QUOTE] The advertising in a paper is a sure fire way of determining what group the paper is targeted at. The Mail and Mail on Sunday's advertising is generally aimed at those with a much higher than average disposable income. ie. Exotic foreign holiday adverts, expensive car adverts and articles on very expensive houses. This does appear to conflict with what you have said up there unless: [QUOTE] [1] not being able to add up, not being able to cope with change, buying pikey goods and generally smelling of piss.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] The Mail's advertising is not, IMO, high end. Its articles tend to be aspirational. BTBH, I can only read it in small doses without being overcome by the overwhelming desire to kill someone. For a better idea of a newspapers actual audience, rather than its intended, read the letters' page. [/QUOTE] If you read as large a selection of papers as I do, you would realise that the letter's pages are often filled by the same contributors even though the papers political allegiance may be completely different. From this I conclude that the letters page are filled with people who believe they know better than others who are most likely more knowledgeable. You meet them in all walks of life.