Perspective

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  1. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

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    Bill Walker Jun 20, 4:55 pm

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    .... Tim Morrow has weaselled out of some family committments, as well..


    Bill Walker

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    Saying he weaselled out of his family committments is no different than
    what you whine about av saying about Brian, after he verbally attacked
    him for months.

    All those exchanges are archived..The exchanges between Tim Morrow are
    archived as well.. Quite a few on these newsgroups actually read those
    exchanges while they were made.. Where were you ?

    Since you have such strong feelings about all this, what was your
    contributions to those exchanges at the time . As you appear to be so
    enthusiastic to engage in all this, now.. Where were you last Saturday?

    You are absolutely right.. This newsgroup bullshit has gone on for a long
    time.. Your contribution to it, at this point, is a bit comical.. if not
    ridiculous.. Since the first time I engaged Moran/AV as you refer to him,
    the entire exchanges were because he was using newsgroup bullshit to
    embarass or try to humiliate someone on tx.motorcycles.. At that time .. he
    was anonymous and only posted under an alias.. I challenged the puke when he
    pulled his usenet insults and attacks on someone else.. It has escalated
    since then, and John Moran has never missed an opportunity to post his
    detestible shit, directly toward or indirectly about the Walkers..

    Those postings included a lot of links to some of the most disgusting porn
    on the internet.. My wife has never been involved in any newsgroup or a
    computer.. John Moran has called her a border whore amongst other insults
    about her.. Every one of you gutless mother fuckers that are defending the
    trashy son of a bitch, never opened your hypocritical mouths about it..

    I don't know who you are or anything about you.. If you are so anxious to
    defend and befriend John Moran, where the hell were you last Saturday.. I
    was in Breckenridge, Tx. I went there to get that pus gutted bastard.. I'll
    be riding my motorcycle to every event where I believe he might show up..
    including the ones on the Gulf Coast.. You need to stick real close to that
    tub of guts, if you intend to defend him.. Your bullshit on a newsgroup
    ain't going to be enough..

    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 21, 2005
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    CCG Guest

    Pretty damn funny. First you make a statement about what's
    reprehensible behaviour. Then you deny your own words that prove that
    you engage in the same behaviour that you claim to find reprehensible.
    Then, when you are provided with proof of your own words, proving what
    a fucking hypocrite you are, you go off on some psychopathic tangent.

    Seek help. IOW, get some fucking "perspective".
     
    CCG, Jul 21, 2005
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  3. just did the same thing last month, restored a '74 XL-175 Honda
    enduro. Great fun to work on because they are so simple and a blast to
    putt around on.
    Yep, and with your own hands getting it to where it looks clean and
    starts on the first kick, total satisfaction like no other. Are these
    two strokes of four strokes ?
     
    another viewer, Jul 21, 2005
  4. "Bill Walker" <> whined about a fictitious
    slight he suffered while he never, ever bothered anybody. Honest!

    same old screed, over and over, you're officially boring.
     
    another viewer, Jul 21, 2005
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    Uncle Pirate Guest

    OK, you're (to save space) every nasty word I can think of; you owe me
    a beer. ;) Seriously, if you ever get to Alamogordo, NM, I'll buy
    *you* the beer.
    I was sorry the bastard was locked up when I found out about my
    daughter. I would have gone to Nebraska or wherever necessary. I just
    wish it had been prison instead of the mental hospital.
     
    Uncle Pirate, Jul 21, 2005
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    Bob Thomas Guest

    Yep. I'm one of those RV Snowbirds ya hear about. I spend Winters in
    Phoenix, and Summers up here in Gunnison, colo. In between I spend a
    couple to three months in Albuquerque. Been havin' some GREAT rides over
    the high passes. Went down 5 sizes in jets to get the thing to stop fouling
    plugs..grin
    Two strokes. Got a friend with an old Yammie (all my bikes are Yammies)
    four stroke 500 Enduro. I keep trying to talk him out of it and he keeps
    saying "No Way".

    One thing about old bikes,.....I understand 'em. Points, even. grin

    cheers

    bob
     
    Bob Thomas, Jul 21, 2005
  7. Bill Walker

    Ruppster Guest

    Sorry, didn't realize a simple statement of "I hope you are joking
    about being pissed off over something as simple as a bunch of "****
    yous". Are you really that petty that you want to do physical harm to
    someone just for that? If so then you need help" was "muscle flexing".
    I thought it was a straight forward question to his comment.
    Yeah, I've read more then I wanted to.
    Already done.
    I'm beginning to feel like a broken record here. Let me repeat one
    more time I never said he hit anyone. My original wording was "you
    want to do physical harm to someone just for that?" and "wanting to
    punch a girl in the face if she dared said a simple "**** you" to his
    face." "Want to" is a lot different from the word "did". Nowhere did I
    ever say he did as I know he didn't.
    I must be a blind shit as I truly don't see an answer. <g> And the
    decoder ring comment was a joke. that's why I put the <g> after it to
    indicate it was not to be taken seriously. Anyhow, the question which
    I asked and no longer want an answer to was not about the right or
    wrong of hitting a woman. While I don't believe in hitting a lady in
    the first place if one initiates the attack and hits me first she has
    made the statement that she considers herself my equal and I will
    defend myself with full force. That much I understand and wasn't
    asking about why he had no problem with attacking a female. Again I
    will do my imitation of a broken record here and repeat the question
    as I first asked it. I said: "I hope you are joking about being pissed
    off over something as simple as a bunch of "**** yous". Are you really
    that petty that you want to do physical harm to someone just for
    that?". Yes, the person he had the desire to smack around was a lady
    but the part I was asking about was in regards to the basic reason he
    was pissed to the point that he felt like he needed to slap someone in
    the first place. In his own words in came across to me that something
    as harmless as some simple "**** yous" was all that was needed to piss
    him off. While your messages only touched on the point that you called
    her a "mouthy bitch that deserves to be slapped" it did not indicate
    whether she did anything more then telling your son to "**** off" on
    numerous occasions. I am not asking for more info on this as as I said
    above I don't care anymore. I am only mentioning it to explain why I
    made the comment in my last message of how I felt that the question
    was not answered by you. Your son has already indicated in a separate
    message that she did a lot worse then "**** yous" to make him want to
    do bodily harm to another human being. Now I understand that he is
    not as petty of a person as his message made him sound to me.

    Ruppster
    sportster at dodge-semis dot com
     
    Ruppster, Jul 21, 2005
  8. Bill Walker

    Ruppster Guest

    Yes, I remember the thread from which you are referring to in regards
    to the GL1100. There's nothing wrong with buying a used vehicle. So it
    turned out to be a lemon, big deal. It wasn't like he was purposely
    being cheap and buying a bike that was known to be a clunker. It
    sounds like he thought he was buying a decent bike for a proper price
    but got the wrong end of the deal. Does that mean he's a dipshit? And
    as far as income what has that got to do with it? My brother-in-law
    (now there's someone that needs to have the shit beat out of him - how
    much would you charge to do it for me <g>) has his own leather goods
    company where he imports stuff from South America and sells to several
    large stores in Florida. He has a really nice house in an expensive
    part of Delray Beach, FL, along with three cars, a newer BMW, a new
    SUV, and a little car for the live in babysitter. And being as close
    to the beach as he is he is paying out the backside for homeowner's
    insurance along with paying to put two kids through private schools.
    On top of this my sister (feel free to call her any name you want, in
    the past I have only tried to kill her twice) has been going to
    college full time for the last three years to become a nurse. With all
    this going on he doesn't have a spare dollar to even think about
    buying even a basket case motorcycle. He makes at least 4 times as
    much as my wife and I do yet we have a lot more free money to play
    with and waste on hobbies then he does. Heck, if I didn't have so
    many hobbies (model trains, R/C cars (both on and off road), plastic
    models, dirt bikes, old trucks) I could go out and buy a brand new
    bike of my choice. But since I like playing with all my other stuff on
    top of motorcycles I choose to be a cheap bastard and own old, out of
    date clunkers anyhow. So what if I need to work on them every now and
    then. Is there anything wrong with that? <g>

    Ruppster
     
    Ruppster, Jul 21, 2005
  9. Bill Walker

    Ruppster Guest

    <snip>

    That was never the issue. Nowhere did I bring up the subject about
    hitting a lady. I never asked about that. Therefore there was no need
    for you to clarify anything about it. As I said to your pop you're the
    one that has to sleep in the bed you make. So how you handle your
    affairs is up to you. If you can sleep at night when the day is done
    more power to you.
    Oh, I understand that there must have been something more to the
    story. Nor did I say that it was the start of it all. As I said going
    by the wording of your message that prompted me to ask my question in
    the first place it came across as though that was all she did. If I
    thought that that was all there was to the story I would have written
    you off as a class A jerk and tossed your name in to the killfile. I
    gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought I would ask before I
    made judgement. Thanks for giving me an honest answer to a simple
    question in order to clarify the subject. Having two daughters myself
    I too would be royally pissed at someone if they really did do
    something to me like what you claim she did to you over your child's
    death. Sorry to hear of your daughter's passing. I wouldn't wish that
    even on my worst enemy.

    Ruppster
     
    Ruppster, Jul 21, 2005
  10. Bill Walker

    Ruppster Guest

    Sorry to hear about that (your daughter, not the mental hospital). One
    of the guys in a local motorcycle club I deal with told me "with boys
    you only have to worry about one dick in town, but with girls you
    have to worry about every dick around." Of coarse this SOB had two
    boys, no girls. <g>

    Ruppster
     
    Ruppster, Jul 21, 2005
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    Iggy Guest

    And Brian did the same....first I might add.
    Google it, you dumb sonuvabitch.

    Where were you? Obviously not at the NART gathering....
    Holeeeee Shit, are you really going to play holier than thou?


    At that time .. he
    So, you stuck your nose in where it didn't belong...again? Go figure!

    It has escalated
    You mean the photos of you and Brian meant as parody? You're just a tad bit
    thin-skinned, pard!

    My wife has never been involved in any newsgroup or a
    Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. From what I've gathered about you, I'd guess
    the former. Hell, you're not man enuff to attain anything else

    Every one of you gutless mother fuckers that are defending the
    Wow! Coming from you, that's downright comical
    No...you weren't

    I went there to get that pus gutted bastard.. I'll
    Neither is yours, you tub of guts.
     
    Iggy, Jul 21, 2005
  12. Bill Walker

    Iggy Guest

    So, when confronted with your obvious lies, you skate like a sissy. Run
    away, boy, run away.

    Yeah, the Walkers don't like that.
     
    Iggy, Jul 21, 2005
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    Bill Walker Guest

    ROTFL... Must be something in the water you guys are drinking, huh ?
    Guess.. ol' John Moran is sweating pretty hard.. hehehe.. All this usenet
    "fun" he's been having for years has suddenly got real.. Some of the people
    that John Moran has had so much newsgroup "fun" with and "toyed" with may
    not have thought it was so damned "funny".. He's not the only one on
    newsgroup that does that.. He's the one that crossed the line with me..
    Right, Wrong or Indifferent.. I'm the one that has declared "Enough".. let's
    take it to the parking lot and just really have some "fun".. I don't intend
    to play any more newsgroup games, with you.. or John Moran.. Forget it..
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 21, 2005
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    Calgary Guest

    Gets kinda tiring having to rebut the same recycled lies and
    fabrications the Walkers continue to bring up doesn't it.

    I think it has been suggested before we simply set up a web page to
    document the lies, fabrications and false accusations made by the
    Walkers, with the actual facts, and then just post a link to the
    relevant portion every time a Walker dredges up the tired old song.

    Might have some value. Kinda like a Walker FAQ.

    Besides I think Bill and Brian have got about as much mileage and
    righteous indignation over their false accusations folks have attacked
    Brian's family by now. To think all of their USENET abuse for the past
    few years could stem from this one incident doesn't pass the giggle
    test. Me thinks they are both just pigs and enjoy rutting in the mud.
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    Bill Walker Guest

    ROTFL.. Just too damn much newsgroup "fun".. ain't it ? See there.. if
    you'd just made it south, you could really have impressed this newsgroup by
    looking those evil Walkers in the eye and exposing them for the cowards they
    really are.. Whoops.. wait a minute.. better get back to Calgary and do all
    this on the newsgroup.. Those guys might actually show up and cause everyone
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 21, 2005
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    chornbe Guest

    Brian,

    I don't know sunny, mags, stan, you, mark, albert, ... etc., any of
    them from a hole in the ground, when it comes right down to it. I can
    only go by how people act (here) and what people say (here), since this
    is the only place I interact with many of them. Most of the people here
    - even those I engage in debates - have been pretty stand up. Don't
    need to be best friends or agree all the time to show a little respect
    and close an argument now and then.

    But, having been (and continuing to be) at the receiving end of your
    false assumptions, false insinuations, false accusations and just plain
    old lies and venom, I have to attach damn little credence to most of
    what you say. Others are in the same boat. But you don't see that... or
    actively choose not to. I don't know which. If you're choosing it, then
    the rest is all just a waste. I'd rather believe you're simply blinded
    to some things, not by choice but by habit. That's easy to fix.

    I don't care if we disagree on the fundamental elements of water - I
    don't care - but the way you, and your dad, go on and on and on and on
    repeating lie and assumption, false conjecture and insult, over and
    over again, just to make people see your "point" really hurts your
    credibility when you (and he) actually take a moment and FINALLY say in
    plain words what's on your mind.

    You're both bright guys and have made some interesting and valid points
    when you're not attacking people. Others have said it too. "Hey, check
    out Bill's post - it's actually damn good" is in my inbox right now
    concerning another thread completely.

    But, you so often hide behind innuendo, half-factual statements and
    vagaries so that no one *quite* really understands what it is you're
    actually saying. Then you jump all over them for being stupid.

    It's like having someone call you up and say "that thing at the place,
    with the people, yeah, it's cool", then hanging up. Too many gaps.

    Say what you're saying and let people *actually* respond with
    information based on what you put out there and have a decent debate.
    But all the crap going on about "typical walker" way of doing things is
    completely your own doing. Then you just lash out and call everyone
    stupid liars. I'm neither, facts to which anyone who deals with me or
    knows me can gladly add credence... but that doesn't stop you.

    Just step back a minute and instead of being hurt by people telling you
    your'e wrong... as happens frequently... think about what *could* be
    wrong and get clarification.

    Or just continue doing what you've been doing and fight with people for
    no reason.

    Think about it. I have a feeling you're simply going to take offense to
    this and lash out at me.

    Prove me wrong.
     
    chornbe, Jul 21, 2005
  17. Bill Walker

    chornbe Guest


    *shrugs* I still see you in quotes and on google.
     
    chornbe, Jul 21, 2005
  18. Bill Walker

    Andrew Guest

    Get over yourself, you idiot.
    Why not take a stroll through google and look at the vitriol you and
    your pop have posted for your entire usenet careers. You're both
    pathological. Spread your hatred elsewhere, punk.

    Oh by the way, let's see that receipt for the alleged BOUNTY you guys
    put up at Western Union. You lying sacks of crap. Lies, lies and more
    lies.

    Lying Liars!
     
    Andrew, Jul 21, 2005
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    Bill Walker Guest

     
    Bill Walker, Jul 21, 2005
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    Bill Walker Guest

    <snipped>

    ROTFL.. So much for all the KILLFILE business..huh ?
     
    Bill Walker, Jul 21, 2005
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