Perspective

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill Walker, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Hans Blix asked only for weeks or months. The job
    was going weel and almost completed. You should do
    some reading. That way, you'd waste less of your
    time asking silly questions, and supporting war crimes
    and terrorism.


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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
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  2. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    So =that's= why you believe that Iraq had those
    scary stockpiles of WMDs, was a threat to "our way
    of life", was about to make mushroom clouds appear
    all over the U.S., and had to be attacked in violation
    of international law..
    'Course, we already knew you were a kook, Albert,
    but it's good to see you finally acknowledge it... <chuckle>

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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
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  3. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    There's your problem. You should have done your
    own research, rather than listen to other people
    tell stories. Faux News, right? <chuckle>


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    http://responsiblewealth.org/
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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  4. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Over 300 tons of high explosives were looted because
    of the bu$h regime's gross negligence and incompetence.
    I wonder how many soldiers lost their lives or body
    parts due to that major blunder. It's hard to believe
    that we still have people like Albert Nurick and Bob
    Thomas defending the incompetent draft dodgers and war
    criminals on the bu$h regime after so many major failures.

    http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/news2004/1029-18.htm

    "On October 28, ABC affiliate KSTP released footage that was shot by
    its embedded reporters on April 18, 2003, showing members of the 101st
    Airborne Division searching the Al Qaqaa bunkers. Clearly visible on
    the tape are containers marked with labels that indicate the barrels
    contained the high explosives in question. ABC World News Tonight
    broadcast the footage on October 28, noting that soldiers opened the
    bunkers that had been sealed by the International Atomic Energy Agency
    (IAEA), discovered the high explosives, and then left those bunkers
    open and unguarded.

    Given that the tape was shot nine days after the fall of Baghdad, it
    would appear to prove that at least some of these explosives were
    looted after the U.S. invasion-- a scenario that is consistent with
    statements from Iraqi officials and witnesses to the looting (Agence
    France Presse, 10/27/04; New York Times, 10/28/04). As ABC's Martha
    Raddatz put it, "It is the strongest evidence to date the explosives
    disappeared after the U.S. had taken control of Iraq."



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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  5. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Yeah, they hate food, water, and shelter, too. Those people
    are weird like that...
    Because his brutal U.S. backed regime had one of the worst
    human rights records on the planet. Most people don't like
    being beaten and tortured.
    Your trolls are too blatant.

    http://www.jebhemelli.net/mossadegh/Coup/day_democracy_died-essayMK.htm

    "The notorious SAVAK was created to imprison, torture and
    assassinate our pro-democracy activists. Thousands upon thousands of
    Iran's pro-democracy activists were subjected to sever torture under
    the Shah's brutal savage rule. Torture by monarchists included rape
    of daughters of political prisoners in front of their eyes: the most
    infamous case being the rape of the daughter of Ayatollah Mahmoud
    Taleghani, the respected liberal cleric, a leader in the resistence to
    the coup regime since August 1953 coup and a member of INF until 1961.
    The monarchists, like the fundamentalists after them, used rape as a
    form of torture of female political prisoners. Human rights
    violations were so severe that Amnesty International declared the
    Shah's regime as "the worst violator of human rights in 1975."


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    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  6. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    I didn't see Gore launch an illegal and immoral
    terror attack motived by lies, greed, and war
    profiteering. Logic isn't one of your specialties,
    is it?


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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  7. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Wilson's report proved the claim was a lie - like most
    of the pro terroism crap you've been spewing.
    Dead wrong again. Don't you ever tire of spewing
    silly lies in support of war criminals and
    terrorists?

    http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0812-05.htm

    "The United States insisted that aluminum tubes Iraq tried to
    purchase abroad were for those centrifuges. Almost every scientist
    outside government -- and most inside -- believed they were, as Iraq
    said, for an Iraqi version of Italy's Medusa 81 rocket. Gellman and
    Pincus report, "Not only the Medusa's alloy, but also its dimensions,
    to the fraction of a millimeter, matched the disputed aluminum tubes."
    When Secretary of State Colin Powell made his famous appearance before
    the U.N. Security Council in February, he insisted that the tubes were
    meant for use in centrifuges. That case was buttressed, he said, by
    the latest batch of tubes, which had "an anodized coating on extremely
    smooth inner and outer surfaces."
    Gellman and Pincus report that an anodized coating actually was an
    argument for rocket use. It would have protected rockets "from the
    sort of corrosion that ruined Iraq's previous rocket supply" -- and,
    moreover, would have needed to be removed for the Iraqis to use the
    tubes in a centrifuge."
    But you'll spew lies in support of terrorism anyway.
    In your case the label "fool" seems to be well
    deserved.

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    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  8. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Kinda like riding your motorcyle with no oil in the
    engine =might= cause damage...



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    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
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    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  9. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Kinda hard to weigh your "bits of evidence" if you won't
    list 'em. Here, try again. Show us your "evidence" so that
    we can weigh it. <chuckle>



    Can you be more specific? Show us the treaty and the wording
    in it that was violated.

    Exactly which resolution was Iraq violating, and what did
    Iraq need to do in order to be in compliance?

    According to Hans Blix, Iraq was cooperating well
    with his inspection team. You seem to be spewing
    pro war, pro terrorism, pro hate lies again.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0127-04.htm

    "Iraq Largely Cooperating with Inspectors, UN Security Council Hears
    Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said Iraq has largely cooperated
    with arms experts, in a report to the UN Security Council that could
    determine whether the world body backs military action against Baghdad."


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    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  10. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Were they the guys who put up a web page full of
    doctored photos of you? That sort of behavior is
    a little weird for adults...


    -

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase
    the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically
    Londoners have now paid the price of the Government
    ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler


    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
    at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)


    http://globalresearch.ca/
    http://www.wsws.org/


    George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
    governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
    to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
    devised." March 17, 2003.

    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/


    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    "You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
    I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
    -- Al Franken

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  11. Bill Walker

    chornbe Guest

    What about the fact that Saddam *did* already use nerve agents and
    other chemical weapons against his own people? Doesn't that count at
    all towards taking him out of power being a good thing?
     
    chornbe, Aug 5, 2005
  12. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    The concept of International Law is too big for your
    "mind", eh?



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    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  13. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Kinda hard to weigh your "bits of evidence" if you won't
    list 'em. Here, try again. Show us your "evidence" so that
    we can weigh it. It must be very convincing if you "think"
    think it justifies violating international law, murdering
    tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and getting well
    over ten thousands U.S. soldiers killed or severely wounded,
    and wasting well over $200,000,000,000 taxpayer dollars.
    Produce your "evidence", Albert. 'Course, you could just
    run off and hide from yet another challenge.... <chuckle>



    Can you be more specific? Show us the treaty and the wording
    in it that was violated.

    Exactly which resolution was Iraq violating, and what did
    Iraq need to do in order to be in compliance?

    According to Hans Blix, Iraq was cooperating well
    with his inspection team. You seem to be spewing
    pro war, pro terrorism, pro hate lies again.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0127-04.htm

    "Iraq Largely Cooperating with Inspectors, UN Security Council Hears
    Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said Iraq has largely cooperated
    with arms experts, in a report to the UN Security Council that could
    determine whether the world body backs military action against Baghdad."


    -








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    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  14. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    The no fly zones were illegal, if you want to
    be legalistic. And since when is self defense an
    act of war? You should do some reading and stop
    humiliating yourslef in futile defense of cowardly
    war criminals and terrorists.


    -

    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  15. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Except for the fact that those weapons were obtained
    with the aid and blessing of many of the people now
    on the bu$h regime, the fact that the U.S. refused to
    cosponsor a U.N. resolution condemning that attack, and
    the fact that it took place 20 years before bu$h's
    illegal and immoral terror attack, you might have a
    point. Why don't you do some reading before making
    such silly "observations"?


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    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  16. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Except for the fact that those weapons were obtained
    with the aid and blessing of many of the people now
    on the bu$h regime, the fact that the U.S. refused to
    cosponsor a U.N. resolution condemning that attack, and
    the fact that it took place 20 years before bu$h's
    illegal and immoral terror attack, you might have a
    point. Why don't you do some reading before you make
    such silly "observations"?


    -


    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  17. Bill Walker

    Hank Guest

    Tell us about all the sacrifices and hard work you
    In Nurickworld, bombing raids, death, destruction, war,
    crimes, torture, terrorism, check points, ID cards,
    kidnappings, midnight home raids, warrantless searches,
    detainment without due process, curfews, snipers, a
    censored press, torture, a puppet government, and an
    illegal occupation by foreign invaders may equate to
    freedom, but on Planet Earth, it never has, and
    never will. I suppose you "think" Hitler brought
    "freedom" to the countries he "liberated", too, eh?
    You really need to do some reading, and stop swallowing
    and puking back up the hate and lies of war criminals,
    terrorists, and torturers.
    Here, read this and get some truth and perspective. This
    woman is amazing. Seriously, read it all. She's beautiful
    inside and out. A true Heroine. Lose that hate and ignorance,
    Albert. Life is short.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0402-01.htm





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    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html

    In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken
    directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not
    involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media.
    McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl
    Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion"
    and "It's not true."
    Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies.

    "We argued, as did the security services in this country,
    that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the
    threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners
    have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such
    warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05

    "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
    there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
    take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
    who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
    warfare or morality."
    -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
    http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

    "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
    to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
    a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
    -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape,
    torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
    that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

    "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
    he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
    -- George W. Bush

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
    will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
    Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
    -- Adolf Hitler

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Aug 5, 2005
  18. Bill Walker

    Debra Keith Guest

    wrote in
    where did you pull that shit from??

    i'm saying... i have more right to publish silly pictures... than bill has
    to slap folks. let's see who gets in more trouble.

    i'll be re-posting my pictures..

    let me get the site together (with a bit more structure...) and a place for
    feedback.

    i ain't skeered of a nut from Texas.
     
    Debra Keith, Aug 5, 2005
  19. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    ROTFL.... What trouble ? That's funny....
    Post your trash.. Usenet trash is what this is all about.. One trashy
    newsgroup creep got part of what was coming to him.. IRL.. Since he's not
    satisfied with that, he'll get some more of it... That's good..
    ROTFL... you don't have reason to be afraid of anyone in Texas...
     
    Bill Walker, Aug 5, 2005
  20. I'd put this one somewhere between "beyond a reasonable doubt" and
    "beyond a shadow of a doubt". Iraq looked unecessary before we went
    in and what I've seen since then reinforces that view.

    If you want to argue it's still uncertain, that's fine by me. I'll
    leave you to debate this one with yourself.

    I expect that some time before 2008, withdrawal will become a
    political necessity. At the time we'd lost the 1000th troop,
    my bet was total losses in the range of 1500-2000. I think
    this was mildly optimistic. I'd expect we'll cobble up some
    inspirational phrase like "peace with honor" (remember that
    one ?) and wish the Iraqi government best of luck. If it
    turns out better than that, I'll be delighted.
    I see the intellignce services as dutifully playing scapegoat
    and taking a bullet for the prez. It has mostly to do with
    my observations of how we rushed into the war.
    I guess I'm fairly indifferent. The war will turn out however
    it turns out. You'll eventually I hope get past this uncertainty
    of yours and reach your own conclusions.

    Cheers.
     
    Rkleinsch1216128, Aug 5, 2005
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