Unless someone can show us the resolution that was being violated at the time of bu$h's illegal, immoral, and globally condemned terror attack on the innocent People of Iraq, and provide proof that Iraq was in violation, I'll continue to to post the truth. - http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" and "It's not true." Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Sure is funny watching you spew your moronic pro terorism lies, than cower and hide when you're asked to explain them. Don't you ever tire of being publicly exposed as a liar, a coward, and a silly kook, Albert? <chuckle> From Hank: Can you be more specific? Show us the treaty and the wording in it that was violated. Exactly which resolution was Iraq violating, and what did Iraq need to do in order to be in compliance? According to Hans Blix, Iraq was cooperating well with his inspection team. You seem to be spewing pro war, pro terrorism, pro hate lies again. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0127-04.htm "Iraq Largely Cooperating with Inspectors, UN Security Council Hears Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said Iraq has largely cooperated with arms experts, in a report to the UN Security Council that could determine whether the world body backs military action against Baghdad." - http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" and "It's not true." Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Proven facts. The decision to invade Iraq was made, then intel was manipulated and distorted to support that decision. Read it. Learn the facts. bu$h lied. It's not an allegation. It's a proven fact, and it's been confirmed by others such as Paul O'Neill and Richard Clarke. Do some reading first, then post your opinions. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0405-10.htm "Richard Clarke was right. So was Paul O’Neill. During the six months before the 9/11 terrorist attacks the Bush administration paid little attention to the threat from al-Qaeda and instead set the stage for a war with Iraq." The real tragedy is that bu$h's waste of over $200 BILLION taxpayer dollars and thousands of lives building a training and recruitment center for al Qaeda in Iraq, has weakened the United States dramatically in almost every respect. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0405-10.htm "Richard Clarke was right. So was Paul O’Neill. During the six months before the 9/11 terrorist attacks the Bush administration paid little attention to the threat from al-Qaeda and instead set the stage for a war with Iraq." - http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" and "It's not true." Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Peering fretfully out from under his tinfoil hat, "Hank" 17, count 'em, UN Security Council Resolutions demanding that Saddam ACCOUNT for his WMDs. at the time of bu$h's illegal, immoral, You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass. You are not only monumentally misinformed, you are unable to differentiate between opinion or allegations and fact. bob
Peering fretfully out from under his tinfoil hat, "Hank" You are not only monumentally misinformed, you don't know the difference between an allegation and a fact. The decision to invade Iraq was made, I read it. I told you what it said. It's a staffer's allegation. It speaks to that staffer's impression that "Bush wanted to use military force". We don't know who this staffer spoke to or what was said. It also speaks to FACTS and INTEL being "fixed around" the policy. What does "fixed around" mean? If it meant "manipulated and distrorted" it would have said so. And, AGAIN, it's a staffer's impression. It is an allegation. And, it says "wanted", not decided. I've wanted to do a lot of things I never actually decided to do. It's a proven fact, and it's been "confirmed......." by other allegations. I have. I posted the actual words of the memo. YOU post opinions, allegations, partisan ankle biting and lies....and think they're facts. bob
Compare and contrast Iraq and the Cuban missle crisis. When inspections were suggested, the response from Washington was something along the line of "He's had twelve years to disarm already". which interestingly enough, he seems to have done. In retrospect, I believe the administration was never about to let the weapons inspections proceed, because if they came up empty, it would have left Saddam in power with not many excuses for the continued sanctions. You can argue that regime change may have been a good objective in and of itself, but nobody ever got a chance to debate that and congress never got a chance to vote on it, because the WMD scare was used to stampede the country to an authorizing resolution.
We made a nice ride over the Cherohala skyway and down the other side into Robbinsville. Warm and sunny on the TN side, cool and wet on the NC side. That made the roads nice and greasy. With that weather, we decided to skip the Dragonslaying for another trip and head on through Maggie Valley. Went right through the town but didn't see the museum. I could have asked, but I was particularly lazy. Another trip will be needed to that area since we skipped the Blue Ridge parkway as well. We headed back through the mtns to the north, and headed to Kentucky via Cumberland Gap where we found many more fine rides and met up with fine friends in Hazard for a IRL. A short trip to Buckhorn Lake was nice and a fine lodge there awaits yet another day. Across KY towards Memphis tomorrow. Seeya later.
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Taking a few chapters from your daddy's life and projecting again, boy? TOO funny!!
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:31:15 -0500, "Brian Walker" Hey, watch who you are calling a "hayseed" redneck! I may be a redneck but I ain't no "hayseed". <g> Ruppster
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:31:15 -0500, "Brian Walker" Hey, watch who you are calling a "hayseed" redneck! I may be a redneck but I ain't no "hayseed". <g> Ruppster
You're confusing your own childhood again. I had a pretty decent childhood. But thanks for the concern. -- ---------------------------- http://chornbe.com/weblog "I swear to God!" -- Fat, corrupt cop. "Swear to Me!" -- Batman
Mindlessly parroting the lies of the bu$h regime, Bob Thomas spewed: Iraq did account for it's weapons. Don't tell us that you forgot about the 12,000 page report that was immediately censored by the bu$h regime before being handed over to the U.N. security council. It's the opposite of the pro terrorism, anti-American lies and idiocy that you've been spewing. - http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm) http://globalresearch.ca/ http://www.wsws.org/ George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." March 17, 2003. http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) "You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building, I didn't realize that he meant only the United States" -- Al Franken Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Bob Thomas whined, cried, and lied: Confirmed by facts and documents. You should try to learn the difference between bu$h's lies and proven facts. The memo proves that bu$h's attack on Iraq was pre planned and that intel was manipulated to fit that plan. Invading Iraq was an illegal act of choice, rather than a necessary defense of The United States. Why do you support bu$h's lies, war crimes, his $200,00,000,000 al Qaeda training and recruitment program in Iraq, and treason? Are you an America hating al Qaeda member? - http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm) http://globalresearch.ca/ http://www.wsws.org/ George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." March 17, 2003. http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) "You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building, I didn't realize that he meant only the United States" -- Al Franken Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Scott Ritter and Hans Blix pretty much said the same thing. They should know... - http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm) http://globalresearch.ca/ http://www.wsws.org/ George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." March 17, 2003. http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) "You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building, I didn't realize that he meant only the United States" -- Al Franken Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Can you be more specific? Show us the treaty and the wording in it that was being violated by Iraq at the time of bu$h's terror attack. Exactly which resolution was Iraq violating, and what did Iraq need to do in order to be in compliance? According to Hans Blix, Iraq was cooperating well with his inspection team. What is your proof for claiming that Iraq was deceiving Hans Blix and his inspectors? You must have some very solid evidence to justify spending hundreds of BILLIONS of U.S. taxpayer dollars, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and killing or severely wounding well over ten thousand U.S. soldiers. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0127-04.htm "Iraq Largely Cooperating with Inspectors, UN Security Council Hears Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said Iraq has largely cooperated with arms experts, in a report to the UN Security Council that could determine whether the world body backs military action against Baghdad." - http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" and "It's not true." Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the Government ignoring such warnings." Respect MP George Galloway 7-7-05 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood." -Albert Nurick, a usenet kook and blatant liar, on the rape, torture and murder at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
"Hank" <"stopbu$h"@terror.gov> pulled his head out of his ass long enuf to mumble, ... And which lies might those be, my massively misinformed dialog participant?? Since you state that the report was censored, you don't have any idea what was in it, now do you? btw, was the report handed to the US or to the UN in the first place??? You have no idea what you're babbling about. You don't know the truth. And, I suspect you wouldn't tell it if you did know. bob
What you think a "fact" is doesn't even approximate the reality. Sigh. I'm getting a bit tired of pointing out the obvious to the oblivious. The memo "proves" NOTHING. The memo ALLEGES that "Bush wanted to use military force..." As to "pre-planned" I'd be very surprised if that were not the case. Obviously you know nothing about the contingency planning that goes on in the Pentagon. Come to think of it, that statement is over qualified. "You know nothing" would have sufficed. The memo also ALLEGES that "the FACTS and INTEL are being 'fixed around' the policy". "Fixed around", used by that individual does not necessarily mean what you want it to. Invading Iraq was an illegal act of Your opinion, such as it is. Why do you support bu$h's lies, Your abilities in invective far exceed your ability to reason or seek facts. No, I just have a problem with idiots such as yourself. bob
(wakko writes about his Bike Ride with His New Bride) ‘‘We made a nice ride over the Cherohala skyway and down the other side into Robbinsville. Warm and sunny on the TN side, cool and wet on the NC side. That made the roads nice and greasy. With that weather, we decided to skip the Dragonslaying for another trip and head on through Maggie Valley. Went right through the town but didn't see the museum. I could have asked, but I was particularly lazy. Another trip will be needed to that area since we skipped the Blue Ridge parkway as well. We headed back through the mtns to the north, and headed to Kentucky via Cumberland Gap where we found many more fine rides and met up with fine friends in Hazard for a IRL. A short trip to Buckhorn Lake was nice and a fine lodge there awaits yet another day. Across KY towards Memphis tomorrow. Seeya later (wakko) ‘‘ahhhhh, that sounds fun, much fun’’ I thoughly enjoy riding in/on the smokies and the Blue ridges. So, you are heading to Memphis? Are ya a Elvis Fan? SAY, wakko, I wished you wouldve merely posted this as a bonified Ride Report, and not threw it in all this mess. You see, with my WTV apparatus, I have to wade down all this crap to find your response, of which I looked forward to hearing where ya been and heading!! (heehee) (BJAY)
Hank, I don't know you from no'where. But, An observation here. I got my ass chewed out, a couple of times, for jumping in and typing in a complete different subject on an ongoing thread. (Like this, that you did) ??Questions for Albert Nurick?? Now it don't bother me, it is that I was once really scorned, and belittled, and called names,like dummy webtv'er, for changing an ongoing thread line. Actually one of them was Mr. Nurick! ell, Albert didnt call me a name, he just explined why it was a NG NO'NO. Well Ole Hank, It ain't no big deal with me, but makes me wonder why some of these SoCalled computer whizzes havent jumped your ass? Remember, just an observation, otherwise I enjoy some of your Bull. (heehee) (BJAY, from NEtexas)
it's because we all kill filed him years ago for doing that, routinely changing his e-mail name to get around existing filters, and a host of things you were starting to do before you were advised how they would be seen based on who typically does those kinds of things. HHH has been doing it for years and appears oblivious to to impact it has on how people tune him out.
