People vs. Janklow, day one

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Dan Carter, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. Dan Carter

    beemerphile Guest

    Bottom line of lane splitting, period, is that its legal "when done in a
    safe fashion". Which means that if ANYTHING happens when yer lane splitting,
    its YOUR FAULT. I think the CHP will find that it was the officer's fault in
    this case, at least that's the impression I got from a CHP
    motor.................beemerphile
     
    beemerphile, Dec 9, 2003
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  2. well, he followed up the guilty verdict by resigning from congress...

    "I wish to inform you that because of present circumstances,
    I will be unable to perform the duties incumbent on me in
    representing the people of South Dakota as their U.S.
    representative," Janklow wrote in a letter that he said was to be
    sent to House Speaker Dennis Hastert on Tuesday."Therefore I wish
    to inform you that I will resign from the House of
    Representatives, effective January 20, 2004."

    That is the same date Janklow is scheduled to be sentenced on his
    manslaughter conviction.
     
    John R Pierce, Dec 9, 2003
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  3. Dan Carter

    Rich Guest

    He did get convicted on all counts, and resigned his House seat. But
    I don't think any Angels were busted in South Dakota and if he serves
    prison time, it will be a state facility.


    R, UB
     
    Rich, Dec 9, 2003
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  4. David Russell, Dec 9, 2003
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  5. Dan Carter

    Dan Carter Guest

    This guy (http://www.friction-zone.com/sgtdesk.shtml), a CHP motor
    sergeant in West LA, spoke at a meeting I attended a few months back (he
    rode the 200mi up here on his R1150RTP, spoke and ate pizza with us for
    3 hours, and turned around and rode home). I was interested in how they
    investigate crashes and feed back results to other officers.

    Motor crashes are investigated by a senior motorcycle training officer,
    not by non-motor officers, and they're merciless. The criterion by
    which the officer is judged is whether he could have prevented the
    crash, regardless of legal fault. Sgt. Price said he'd been in 3
    crashes in his 15 years, all judged to be preventable though the other
    party was legally at fault.
     
    Dan Carter, Dec 9, 2003
    #65
  6. The troll aside, would we be at all interested in the case of vehicular
    manslaughter by a House Member from the middle of nowhere if the victim was
    not a biker?

    Given the circumstances of the killing, the fact that the victim was on a
    bike was rather irrelevent. Just about any vehicle would have failed to
    protect the driver.

    I hope we're all as riled up the next time a bicyclist gets run down,
    or any other victim of the rather popular sport of running stops in
    our state.
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Dec 9, 2003
    #66
  7. Find some more, then. #1 cause on our freeways is tailgating. Rain comes down,
    too many assholes still want to go 65-80.

    The slowpokes should stay to the right, but that doesn't give the rest of
    us license to hang on their ass until they do move.
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Dec 9, 2003
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  8. Dan Carter

    barbz Guest

    Hey! Scientology can help you with that! It's one of the benefits of
    buying courses which teach you power over Mass, Energy, Space, and Time!
    (of course, up to this point, there has been no evidence that such
    Powerzz<tm> exist, or I wouldn't have been able to write this...

    barbz
     
    barbz, Dec 9, 2003
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  9. Dan Carter

    Charles Soto Guest

    Ever watch Scanners? Cronenberg flick...

    Charles
     
    Charles Soto, Dec 9, 2003
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  10. Dan Carter

    bobo Guest

    That's the REAL question.
    Will he do time in prison?
    Will you be surprised if he doesn't?
     
    bobo, Dec 9, 2003
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  11. Dan Carter

    jenner Guest

    This is a stretch. The fact that the victim was a motorcyclist was very
    relevant to the death. Cars are getting pretty damn good at protecting
    occupants.
     
    jenner, Dec 9, 2003
    #71
  12. Only so long ago that I don't remember it. Probably because I was a kid and
    was hiding my eyes half the time. Something about exploding heads.
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Dec 9, 2003
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  13. Thanks for cross-posting fuckhead!!!
     
    Chris Buckley, Dec 9, 2003
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  14. Aren't we being a little too hard on the poor man ? Hasn't he suffered enough ?

    "My prayers go to Bill - he hurts, he hurts," said Bush, who spoke to Janklow
    not long after the Aug. 16 crash. "This matter will run its course. It's an
    unintentional accident."

    http://www.southdakotaelections.com/Story.cfm?Type=Election&ID=1948
     
    r_kleinschmidt, Dec 10, 2003
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  15. Dan Carter

    Dave Slavik Guest

    No....No...

    I want to blow them up.
     
    Dave Slavik, Dec 10, 2003
    #75
  16. Against a large american sedan going 70mph broadside into you?

    I'll pass on that demonstration.
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Dec 10, 2003
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  17. Dan Carter

    James Clark Guest

    That was just a short reminder. The collision was discussed earlier.

    http://www.kfmb.com/topstory20035.html
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20031120-9999_7m20motor.html
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20031119-2212-chp-staff.html
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20031124-0245-memorial.html
    http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/news/2660226/detail.html

    He was climbing the hill out of Mission Valley.

    Are you claiming the truck driver was driving at an "unsafe" speed?
     
    James Clark, Dec 10, 2003
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  18. Dan Carter

    PP Guest

    And, of course, we will be paying his congressional pension for the rest of
    his life.

    PP
     
    PP, Dec 10, 2003
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  19. in the jankow case, I seem to recall the bike hit the car...
     
    John R Pierce, Dec 10, 2003
    #79
  20. (r_kleinschmidt) wrote

    As if having Dubya go to bat for you isn't damning enough...



    cds
     
    C. Deforrest Smith, Dec 10, 2003
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