People vs. Janklow, day one

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Dan Carter, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. Maybe the aging sportbikers aren't compensating as much as the 'Vette
    drivers. Or maybe, just maybe, they simply like sportbikes. ;)
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Dec 3, 2003
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  2. Dan Carter

    Margaret M. Guest

    After looking at all these, it WAS-
    Episode 12 Season 1 Titled: Miri
    Thanks for the reference site.
    Mag
     
    Margaret M., Dec 3, 2003
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    Rich Guest

    The helmet requirement makes it difficult to tell whether she's
    blonde.
    R, UB
     
    Rich, Dec 3, 2003
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    Rich Guest

    No, but "you" where "your" is meant does. ;-}
    R, UB
     
    Rich, Dec 3, 2003
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    notbob Guest

    HAH ha...!!!
     
    notbob, Dec 4, 2003
    #25
  6. One thing is for someone to kill a motorcyclist, but
    motorcyclists are not the only ones to get T-boned. Take a look
    at this! Kind of wrenches the heart.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/03/Pasco/School_bus_flips_in_c.sht
    ml
     
    High Plains Thumper, Dec 4, 2003
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    barbz Guest

    Alass, the you was properly applied. The 'ass' was merely an annoyingly
    deliberate misspelling of 'as.'
    Tee hee! Gotcha!

    barbz
     
    barbz, Dec 4, 2003
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    Dale Elliott Guest

    The episode you're thinking of is "Miri".

     
    Dale Elliott, Dec 4, 2003
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    Spanky Guest

    Naw, that wasn't a "big bald spot", it was just a "helmet friction zone".
    ;-)
     
    Spanky, Dec 5, 2003
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    Carl Taylor Guest

    I hope you're not framing this as being about "cagers" vs. bikers.
    It's about reckless speeding in general.

    http://news.google.com/news?num=100&q=janklow+speeding
    Bikers tend to die when they meet cars, not because "cagers" are the
    greater evil, but because motorcycles are much lighter and less
    protective of their occupants. General recklessness and speeding is
    the real issue, and bikers are notorious for taking risks. Had Janklow
    been riding a bike during that crash, or a lifelong member of some
    biker club, you'd probably be firmly on his side.

    C.T.

    http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/
     
    Carl Taylor, Dec 7, 2003
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    Tomas Guest

    If you think he'll ever spend one second in jail you're sadly mistaken...
     
    Tomas, Dec 7, 2003
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  12. Dan Carter

    Dan Carter Guest

    I didn't. But you'd have to read the entire 250-word post to realize
    that. The case is about one privileged shithead who killed one innocent
    motorcyclist. It doesn't have anything to do with speed, though the
    simpletons in the media have reported it that way. The collision
    occurred not because he was driving at 70+ in a 55 but because he
    ignored a stop sign. And a STOP AHEAD sign. And rumble strips that
    warned of the upcoming stop.
    Are you suggesting that I would side with a motorcyclist who gets
    himself killed by blowing a stop sign simply because he's a fellow
    rider? Your presumptuousness is staggering.
     
    Dan Carter, Dec 7, 2003
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  13. the best safety device that could be introduced in car would be a
    sword that comes out of the steering column that impales the driver if
    he is in an accident. I am willing to go out on a limb and predict
    that there will be approximately five (5) accidents nationwide after
    this new device0 is installed in all automobiles..................
    drivers will obey speed limits religiously, will go under the limit.
    If a kid runs in the street there willbe sufficient time to avoid
    him. Under this new regime, no jail time will be necessary, because
    there will be no "accidents", or very close to zero accidents. there
    are very few auto accidents, actually.
     
    Richard The Magnificent, Dec 7, 2003
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    barbz Guest

    California has a law regarding people with medical probs which might
    affect their driving skills. Basically, if you're subject to seizures,
    serious diabetic problems, major head injuries, etc. you can't drive.

    Since this putz Janklow is using the same defense he's used in the past,
    he obviously has a chronic problem and should have a vehiclectomy.
    I really, really hate this guy, crocodile tears and all!
    barbz
     
    barbz, Dec 7, 2003
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    barbz Guest

    I doubt it. I believe that politicians should be held to a higher
    standard than the rest of us.

    barb
     
    barbz, Dec 7, 2003
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    barbz Guest

    I'd like him to...and I'd like him to share a cell with some of the
    recently busted Hell's Angels. I bet they'd LOVE his ass!

    Literally...

    barb
     
    barbz, Dec 7, 2003
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  17. Same in New Zealand - you're asked when getting a license or at the 10
    yearly renewal whether you have medical problems that could affect
    your driving (with handy-dandy sample list), and if you do, you're
    required to get a doctor to certify you're safe to drive if you want
    the license.
     
    Rodger Donaldson, Dec 7, 2003
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    mrdancer Guest

    I disagree. Every driving / defensive driving instructor I've talked to
    tells me that statistics bear out that the number one cause of multi-vehicle
    accidents is someone driving too SLOW. It's not speed that kills, but the
    differential in speeds of vehicles.

    There is major highway construction going on in the town where I'm posting
    from. A four-lane freeway (two lanes each way) has been necked down to
    two-way. Officials posted the speed limit at 60mph to keep traffic flowing
    and prevent traffice jams, etc. However, there are always a few numbskulls
    that think it prudent to drive 45mph along the six-mile or so construction
    zone, despite the posted limit. There've been quite a few accidents out
    there, and nearly always caused by someone holding up traffic. I'm still
    trying to decide if they really are idiots, or if they get some sort of
    power trip over holding up a mile of traffic.
     
    mrdancer, Dec 7, 2003
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    Alan Moore Guest

    You are mistaken. There is only one important actuarial study of the
    question, and the fact that emerged is that in fully half of all
    motorcycle fatality accidents, the driver of a car was at fault,
    violating the motorcyclists right-of-way. This is the greatest single
    cause of death in motorcycling accidents, by a considerable margin.
    Exactly how many "bikers" do you know personally. Perhaps you've
    noticed some risk takers among them, I certainly have. I've also
    noticed that the chronic risk-takers are very conspicuous, while the
    more conservative riders are all but invisible. It's the latter,
    however, who go on riding year after year, in large numbers.
    Look at how people on this newsgroup are castigated by others of the
    group (I'm reading in rec.motorcycles) when they admit to being
    involved in an accident -- or even a near miss -- and you'd realize
    how rediculous this last statement is.

    It seems to me that there are two important issues in the Janklow
    trial. The first, and most important is, as you suggest, speeding and
    reckless driving generally, and the consequences therefor. The second
    is whether people in high office, or being influential for other
    reasons, are to be held to the same standards of justice as the rest
    of us. So far, Janklow hasn't been...

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Dec 8, 2003
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    Alan Moore Guest

    Thanks for that clarification Chris. I had envisioned a prolongued and
    pointless argument with some idiot. Knowing this up front will save me
    some irritation.

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Dec 8, 2003
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