PCN again, this time Oxford City Council

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gustav, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. Gustav

    Gustav Guest

    Hi All,

    I don't think I'll ever grasp the complexity of motorcycle parking rules in
    the UK. :) I've been parking my motorbike on the pavement in front of my
    house in Oxford for over 6 months now, never got a ticket for that. This
    morning however I got a PCN for leaving the bike in front of my friends
    house in a nearby road with exactly the same restrictions.

    PCN issued at 10:57 saying "Parked in a restricted street during prescribed
    hours.". The bike was actually parked on the pavement and not on the road.
    Nice and tight by the wall. The restriction is "Mon-Sat, 8am - 10.00pm,
    2hrs, no return within 2 hrs". It's a small road with very little traffic
    and hardly any pedestrians, so the bike was not causing any obstruction to
    the traffic.

    What is the actual offense here?
    Parking on the pavement or parking during "prescribed hours"?
    Is parking motorcycles on the pavement legal in Oxford?

    Do I have any grounds for appeal? If I appeal by saying that the bike was
    not parked on the road, can they reissue a new fine or charge for parking on
    the pavement?

    Thanks for help,
    Gustav
     
    Gustav, Nov 20, 2006
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  2. Gustav

    Hog Guest

    I had to park my 996 on the pavement up against the house wall and a
    ground anchor in Botley for months. I put a cover over it, padlocked
    nice and tight so the scum couldn't get at my number plate.

    Serves you right for living in Oxford, it's a cess pit.
     
    Hog, Nov 20, 2006
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  3. Gustav

    BGN Guest

    Ask them to define parking on a pavement - if they say that it's
    parking a vehicle with one or more wheels on the ground then I trust
    you will inform them it was on the centre stand and a lump of wood was
    under the front tyre meaning zero wheels were in contact with the
    road/pavement.

    Next time cover up the number plate and rip off the tax disc which
    would probably do it.
     
    BGN, Nov 20, 2006
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  4. Gustav

    Kim Bolton Guest

    If the bike was parked behind the 'building line', it might not have
    been parked on the pavement at all, even though it looked as if it
    was. Unless your friend has the deeds to his house, or other legal
    paperwork, or some other indication, it might be a tad difficult to
    prove, though.

    IANAL.
     
    Kim Bolton, Nov 20, 2006
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  5. Gustav

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    The "road" extends from the border of people's property on one side to the
    other so being on the pavement doesn't exempt you from parking restrictions
    I'm afraid.

    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Nov 20, 2006
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  6. Gustav

    WavyDavy Guest

    That could be, whilst correct in tone, slightly spurious as, when I lived in
    Nottm, my deeds showed that I owned the back garden, land that the house
    occupiedm front garden *and* land to the centre of the road. But I had *no*
    rights over the land past the front garden and the council could impose any
    restrictions as they wished....

    Dave

    PS. Did you get to see TLE? They fucking rocked in Nottm last week,
    although a week out of the country and return flights etc for 35 mins was
    possibly a bit excessive, but we did bump into Andy-not-Travis, the drummer,
    later on and had a very pleasant drunken chat..... :)
     
    WavyDavy, Nov 20, 2006
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  7. Gustav

    Gustav Guest

    Hi,
    The ticket says "restricted street".
    Is there any difference in the definition of a street and road?

    Would parking on the pavement in this place be legal if it happened outside
    the restricted times?
    Do I risk being reissued another fine for parking on the pavement if I try
    appealing?

    Thanks,
    Gustav
     
    Gustav, Nov 20, 2006
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  8. I own half the road in front of my place, according to my deeds. I
    assume the Council adopted it some time ago.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 20, 2006
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