PCIII cost from US

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Big Fella, Dec 19, 2003.

  1. Big Fella

    CrazyCam Guest

    The "something" which is wrong, is the idea that the price of an item is
    directly related to the cost of production.

    In fact, the price of stuff is what the seller thinks they can get for
    it.....or sometimes a bit more.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Dec 21, 2003
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  2. Having just spent 7 months in Saudi I can tell you that this is no
    exaggeration
    The country has 0 tax, No fuel, income or Import taxes
    Petrol costs around 10 AUS cents a litre
    Large Lamb dinner cooked and delivered halfway across town < $5 AUS

    Mal
     
    Malcolm Allen, Dec 22, 2003
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    Smee Guest

    Remove oil production from their economy and they are a basket case.
    If Australia had the oil the arabs had do you think we would be as
    heavily taxed?
     
    Smee, Dec 22, 2003
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    Doug Cox Guest

    They've already stated their case for aid from the UN should alternative
    fuels cripple the petroleum industry....

    Doug Cox.
    Work to ride, Ride to work...
     
    Doug Cox, Dec 22, 2003
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    Conehead Guest

    Couldn't agree more, Cam, plus there's the other one: value. Cost, price
    and value. All different, scarcely even related, but so many think they're
    the same thing.

    Conehead
     
    Conehead, Dec 22, 2003
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    Smee Guest

    Aid schmaid
    How much aid would they receive to keep up with their so called standard
    of living?
    They'd be no better than a 3rd world basket case complete with aid.
     
    Smee, Dec 22, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    I was talking about your comment that "we don't make anything in this country,
    so it's import nearly everything". On the contrary I'd say in comparison with
    Saudi Arabia we make shitloads of stuff and it's S.A. who makes sweet eff a...
    which would help explain why the **** are they driving Chevys built in
    Adelaide and eating Australian reared sheep.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Dec 22, 2003
    #27
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    the chevys go so fast moite

    and you wouldnt take kiwi sheep
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 22, 2003
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Yes.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Dec 22, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    these.

    How come the Gov'ts 10% is bigger than anybody else's?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 22, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "atec77" wrote
    populace .

    Are you saying the Labor Gov't is smarter than the Libs?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 22, 2003
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    atec77 Guest

    huh ?. I seem to read it as the labor party are even worse bastards to
    invent this unrepealed shiite.
     
    atec77, Dec 22, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Smee" wrote
    Umm, my understanding of how Oz oil works is that it costs $1 a barrel
    delivered to the refinery from Bass Strait. The Gov't then imposes
    parity by taking 70% of the price difference with World parity, giving
    the oil company the other 30%. The Gov't charges another 40 cents a
    litre at the pump, and now, GST on top of all that.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 22, 2003
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  14. Well maybe not entirely true

    Our Govenment holds a Supplus of Taxpayers money at the moment
    So really one of two things are happening here
    1. We are being over Taxed or
    2. The money is not being spent on Roads, Hospitals, Public transport and so
    forth
    As Govenments really have no money except that raised from taxes
    Consider this.
    Nev requires a satisfactory bit of road for his 02 CBR1100XX
    The Govt comes back to Nev and says we will tax you for this bit road,
    construction, on going maintainance and so on
    Nev agrees
    Two years on the Govt announce to Nev that they have a Supplus of Nevs tax
    Nev is really pissed off because his road is full of pot holes
    On the other hand Nev should still be equaly pissed off if the road was fine
    and the Govt held a surplus of Nev's hard earned
    Nev was over Taxed and the supplus should belong to Nev.

    So unless we can look out of the window in the morning and see all the roads
    in a fine state
    No long queues at our hospital Casualty
    Trains that are maintained and run on time and move the volume of people
    required
    Unless all these are addressed the Govt has no right to hold a surpplus.

    Mal
     
    Malcolm Allen, Dec 22, 2003
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    Smee Guest

    I was asking in respect to the amount of oil produced in saudi arabia as
    oopsed to australia.
    The audi's rely on oil and oil alone.
    The amount they produce means they don't pay the amount of taxes etc and
    their petrol money is subsidised as opposed to us here.
    If we produced the amount they did i'm sure things such as petrol etc
    would or could be subsidised or at least more of the oil revenue would
    be pumped back into the economy.
     
    Smee, Dec 22, 2003
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    Smee Guest

    You still missed my point.
    If the saudi's had no oil they would have no economy at all.
     
    Smee, Dec 22, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    You picked a really poor example. I pay enough tax every year to buy a couple
    of new bikes and I've never complained. You also picked a really bad example,
    in Saudi Arabia, to compare Australia to, because if my memory of what I've
    seen about Saudi Arabia in documentaries doesn't fail me, there are a minority
    of very wealthy people (members of the Al Saud ruling family) living there who
    own everything and don't need the government (their own family) to provide
    services, and then there are a very large number of poor people living there,
    for whom the government (Al Saud ruling family) provide inadequate services.
    I can at least see, to some degree, where taxes I pay are being spent and
    there are few, if any, potholes on my favourite roads :p

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Dec 22, 2003
    #37
  18. Very True Nev
    The Saudi's don't do or make very much at all
    Country is more or less run by contractors
    Must say I like the Chev lumina's :)

    Mal
     
    Malcolm Allen, Dec 22, 2003
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    Neil Downe Guest

    Malcolm said....

    MA> What I find even more offensive, is the fact you can buy a leg of Aussie
    MA> lamb in Saudi Arabia, cheaper than down the road at Woollies.

    Yeah, but have you seen the quality of the meat that we export? It's
    mostly sheep that's only good for mutton. No yearling lambs amongst that
    lot...
     
    Neil Downe, Dec 22, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Nev.." wrote
    Well, they wouldn't be your favourite roads if they had pot-holes, would
    they?

    Sheesh!

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 22, 2003
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