Payments for SOB question

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Rasman99, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    I flogged a bike on e-bay last week. Buyer coming to pick up tomorrow, he
    is new to e-bay and has had difficulty getting established with Paypal etc.
    His offer is to bring me a building society cheque made out in my name for
    the agreed value.
    Seems OK to me. Anyone know of any scams, ruses or dodges with this type of
    operation.
    I'm up ^ in Scotland he is on holiday in the lake district but heading to
    Hampshire.

    Any advice on this (keep the V5C until the cheque clears) but let the bike
    go or......... am I being a paranoid PITA.

    Advice appreciated.

    Ras
    Gt750 Red
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    Rasman99, Aug 28, 2006
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  2. Rasman99

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Hmmm. I just gave the bloke who owns the XL a cheque, too, but pretty
    much told him to give me a bell when the cheque cleared[1]. I wouldn't
    expect to take away a vehicle without giving the owner's bank the
    chance to have a good go at it.

    Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here but I was under the impression that
    there wasn't much of a difference anymore between a BS cheque and a
    simple bank cheque?
    Fake cheque, not enough cash in the account, account closed years ago...
    He either gives you cash or mails you the cheque so you can bank it and
    get it checked (sic).

    I mean, WTF is wrong with cash?[2]

    [1] I know, I know. They don't clear properly anymore these days but I
    know that my cheques aren't a fake...
    [2] Apart from your bank playing bloody silly if you want a larger
    amount of cash, that is. I always like being treated like a criminal
    when I want to withdraw more than 300 quid/day, thankeweverymuch.
     
    Timo Geusch, Aug 28, 2006
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  3. Rasman99 wrote
    You could say this yes. It is much easier for any scrote to simply (and
    anonymously) lift the bike from your drive at 3am in the morning rather
    than to faff about with putting in a personal appearance with the
    express intention of doing evil deeds. But there you go, if scrotes had
    brains they wouldn't be scrotes.



    As I understand it, a BS cheque is as good as cash but a simple phone
    call to head office with the cheque in your grubby mitt should serve to
    quell or confirm your worse fears.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 28, 2006
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  4. Yes. Forgeries. And if the gentleman is of a Nigerian persuasion.....

    Seriously, forged BS cheques are fairly common. The only way to be sure
    is to go with the buyer down to the BS, and watch him withdraw a cheque
    over the counter (I've done this). Otherwise don't let go of the bike
    until it's cleared.

    Probably not what you wanted to hear.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 28, 2006
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  5. Utter bollocks. See other posts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 28, 2006
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  6. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Not what I wanted to hear... but what I was frightened of.
    We are talking just over a 1200 UKP here... usually you can draw that sort
    of money.
    Timo was right in as much as your bank/building society make you feel like a
    hardened criminal when you want a large amount of dough.
    Shit shit shit!
    The other worry is he is a low feedbacker 100% but on minor items Gt750
    manual and a Gt750 T-shirt!!
    Coupled with the I'm on holiday bit but have bought a bike trailer en-route
    all sounds iffy.

    So........ when matey comes along have some mates hanging about drag him off
    to the building society and get the cheque verified or it's GTF mate.
    I assume they can do that.

    Sound fair?

    Ras the paranoid fucker
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    Rasman99, Aug 28, 2006
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    Alan Guest


    Personaly i would accept a BS cheque BUT i wouldn't let the goods go till
    the money was in my account. Bits of paper without the Queens head ain't
    worth a toss.
     
    Alan, Aug 28, 2006
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  8. That or (if he hasn't yet got the cheque out) tell him you'll accompany
    him to the BS branch and watch him withdraw it with your own eyes.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 28, 2006
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  9. Yes, we know that.
    Again, I hate to rain on your parade, but there are forged cheques out
    there which are good enough to fool bank tellers.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 28, 2006
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  10. Indeed
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 28, 2006
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  11. Rasman99 wrote
    If I were that paranoid, which I am not, I would include a child
    "playing" with a video camera and make sure the led at the front was
    turned off and the audio gain turned 7 tenths up.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 28, 2006
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  12. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Well....... I'm expecting a phone call later on today finalising his ETA
    etc. His plan is to hand over a cheque in my name organised prior to arrival
    I suppose I could get the cheque details, the BS that issued it and give
    them a bell or e-mail when he phones.

    Thanks for your input TOG as you seem to have bought a bike or two along
    with the other posters in this thread guidance much appreciated.
    There is just something ringing alarm bells at not being able to raise over
    a grand in cash given a week to do so.
    In the area of SOB's I operate in cash is usually all thats required and not
    a lot of it as they generally are project SOB's that have been abandoned due
    to lack of interest/cash/boredom etc.

    I suppose I'm guilty in a way, should have told him to GTF or follow the
    payment terms in the advert which were ....Paypal,cash or cheque once
    cleared into my account.

    Ras
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    Rasman99, Aug 28, 2006
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  13. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    LOL, I know I know, the voices made me do it.

    <fx puts thumbscrews back in drawer>

    Ras
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    Rasman99, Aug 28, 2006
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    gazzafield Guest



    Some bits of paper with the queens head aint worth a toss.
     
    gazzafield, Aug 28, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    *ding*

    If you've got a bad feeling about this, trust your feeling - it's
    probably right.

    There's no reason why said person can't do a counter withdrawal. If
    they're worried about being mugged then go to the bank with them.

    Otherwise, I wouldn't touch this with someone else's bargepole.
     
    Timo Geusch, Aug 28, 2006
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  16. I don't take Paypal for collected goods. If the buyer claims
    non-receipt of the goods then it's possible that the cash would be
    clawed back as Paypal only accept on-line tracking services as proof of
    delivery.
     
    the.best.names.are.gone, Aug 28, 2006
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  17. and even some of them are forged, although the latest kind are quite
    difficult to do convincingly.
     
    Austin Shackles, Aug 28, 2006
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    C.O.Jones Guest

    Others have warned of potential scams.

    Here is a way I dealt with selling a car - the buyer paid cash into my
    account at their home branch which I was then able to confirm had
    been paid in. Solves some of the mugging worries as it is a cash
    payment without him having to travel with loads of cash. The only
    potential problem area is giving the buyer our bank account details
    (name, number, sort code).

    ernest
     
    C.O.Jones, Aug 28, 2006
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, C. O. Jones
    Why is this a potential problem? You hand this information over every
    time you write a cheque.

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    Adrian Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel () gurgled happily, sounding
    much like they were saying :
    There's been a spate of malicious pay-ins lately...
     
    Adrian, Aug 29, 2006
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