Passport to visit Paris ?

Want to spend a week in the city and surrounding areas looking at
places, re living old memories etc, but I'm not sure if you need a
passport to get in now ? I know the 'EEC' says you don't but them dam
froggies can be a bit different about things, and with all these
terrorists running around.

So is a red book needed now ?
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Yes it most certainly is. I would doubt you would be allowed off UK soil
without one given the increased level of checking due to the "terror"
level.

Cue someone saying they went to frogland last week with the back of a
cereal packet as their form of ID.

 

So need some form of ID, which in the case of the UK means passport.
Unless you've already got one of those UK ID cards...

 

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Yes, although it's a UK requirement not a French one, I think, something to
do with us opting out of some EU ratifications/treaties [1] or summat or
other

[1] someone who knows will be along to confirm/.dismiss this I guess

 

The UK is not a 'Schengen' country, ergo you need a passport to get in and
out.... France to Spain to France to Italy to France to Germany (for
example) doesn't need a passport to cross the borders... But there are
certain rules and regulations and customs within each country regarding
carrying positive ID that make having a passport that much simpler.

That said, legally no-one, anywhere, *needs* a passport as it is only the
guarantee of who they are etc, if you can convince a customs official of
your identity and reason for entry to *any* country then you shouldn't need
a passport. But I wouldn't like to try out that particular theory in
person......

Dave

 

I think you'll find it's the UK that are the 'difficult' country about
border issues.

 

You don't normally need one to cross over to France, though very
occasionally they check when you are leaving the UK.

You *do*!!! need one to get on any form of legitimate transport to bring
you back into the UK.

So assuming you want to come back, the answer is a resounding YES.


[OT] A French credit card is also useful for getting petrol on
Sundays and odd times...

 

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Last year, before all the recent "security" issues, I went on a weekend
trip to France. Two hours before we were due to leave I discovered my
passport had expired a few weeks earlier. I decided to risk it and got
the following:-

Leaving the UK -nothing
Arriving France - asked if I knew my passport was out of date, replied
yes and was allowed to pass
Leaving France - nothing
Arriving UK - allowed in after a couple of questions

 

As the OP did not say how he was travelling your statement is not
correct for air or Eurostar. For Eurostar you are checked by UK and
French immigration one after another at Waterloo and at Paris. I
understand the Belgians are even worse but I have not been to Brussels
on Eurostar. I cannot imagine getting past check in at an airport
without a passport.

Agreed that the UK is particularly awful in this respect. I loathe the
way deals with passport checks / immigration / security. It's
intimidating, unwelcoming and indicative of a "bunker" attitude. One of
my least favourite aspects of travelling to and from this country.

 

It's not very difficult at all, as it 'appens.
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 22:40:40, Nicknoxx wrote:

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It was easier then.
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Not so now. You have a wand 'sniffing' all over the bike by the French,
and a bit of a grilling by the UK staff 'over there'.

 

I was naturally (automatically?) assuming on two wheels, but I now
realise that may have been presumptuous...

Sometimes they feign the 'fierce' look and questions, which is *so
Merkin*, sometimes they are just bored and enjoy a chat - it helps to
travel in the wee small hours.

Hint for travelling on the Shuttle by bike - *always* pre-book as early
as possible for the cheapest slot on the day of intended travel,
regardless how that may later translate into reality. They never (well,
never have for me on many trips) ever imposed any extra charge even if a
day early or late, and I've always got on the next Shuttle immediately
available. Return journey should never amount to more than GBP46.

 

Every flight I've taken in the last 5 months, regardless of destination
(within the Europe or not), I've needed a passport. It's checked two to
three times before you get to the plane, so I don't think there's any
way to get out without one.

Other forms of transport - not my forte.

 

Schengen, but that just means that the border controls haven't been
abolished.

Most EU countries have a requirement that you carry ID and as there is
only on kind of ID you get as a UK citizen, you'll have to carry a
passport.

 

If you're going on your bike then maybe not. I've never been asked for
my passport when I'm on a bike. I've had occasions when in a group the
passport officer asked the rider at the front if we were all English
and then letting us ride through.

It still happened a couple of months ago in this 'hightened security'
when I started to fumble around with my jacket / oversuit in Calais and
the guy just waved at me to move on.

I've only been stopped once by customs on a bike and this was because
the girl was training and they wanted to ask all the silly questions
like where I'm from and how long I've been in France etc. They also
pulled over Judge of this parish at the same time and asked me if I
knew him. I said I had never seen him before in my life and he had just
tagged onto the back of us as we entered the port. It still didn't get
him the rubber glove treatment though.

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You sure? I thought within Europe[1]they actually check 'id', which
I'll give you, for the Brits, is a passport. Some Germans I was last
travelling with certainly used their id cards, not passports.


[1] And I've done my fair share.

 

The United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland are the only two EU
members not to have signed the Schengen Agreement, although they have
accepted some of its provisions. Ireland has a free movement
arrangement with the UK (called the Common Travel Area) similar to the
Schengen Agreement, so in order to maintain this it can only sign the
Schengen Agreement if the UK does. [1]

It is a common misconception in the UK that all other Schengen
countries issue ID cards, and that this bears some relation to the UK's
non-membership. However, Schengen member Norway does not issue ID
cards, and Finland, France, Iceland, Sweden and Austria do not have
compulsory ID cards to date. The Netherlands also did not have
compulsory ID cards at the time it joined Schengen, but this was
changed on 1 January 2005. (See List of identity card policies by
country for information on other states' policies.)

Non-EU nationals living in the UK and Ireland would benefit from the UK
and Ireland joining the Schengen area, as they currently need to obtain
separate UK, Irish and Schengen visas in order to travel within the EU.
On 29 May 2000 the UK and Ireland began participating in the Schengen
Information System.[1]

* It should be noted that notwithstanding the above; the UK wishes
to maintain its own border controls.

Firstly, the UK wants to keep its advantage being an island-state,
which enables further protection against possible threats to its
argriculture like animal-diseases.

Far more importantly, the UK exercises different immigration controls
compared to those of the Schengen countries, and wishes to keep full
autonomy over immigration issues.

(Copy and pasted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement)

 

Is'nt it an Anglo-Cymraeg border requirement