Painting

In houses that is.

You'd think by now someone would have invented gloss and satin finish
paint that was water soluble.

I hate fecking around with turps and spirits to clean brushes. Never
seem to be able to get all the paint off and then when you come to use
the brushes again, all the bristles are stuck fast.

Still, on the up side, Dulux Once is bloody marvelous. Especially
when you're putting white over a dark colour.

 

Ben wrote

Clean Brushes??

FFS laddie this is the 21st Century, they cost tuppence each and no time
at all to throw away and a **** sight less damaging to the environment
as well is you do.


Buy new ones.

 

You can get water based gloss and satin finishes, they are generally
referred to as acrylic.

If you decide to use them, then invest in a decent synthetic brush as they
tend to clog up pure bristle ones.

Coincidentally I was using an acrylic gloss finish this morning.

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

But don't "buy 25, get 25 free" like I did.

Unless you like hairy woodwork.
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|_\_____/_| ..74309../..18302.../..3184./.19406
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|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
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I made the mistake of using a cheap pasting brush once. I soon got
bored of picking hairs out of the paste and thought "You won't see that
through the paper once it's on the wall". Wrong. Very wrong.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dan L"

And ffs, don't use cheap acrylic. Utter, utter shit it is; brushmarks
galore.

 

Hombase's cheapie own-brand white / magnolia one-coat satinwood stuff is
water soluble IIRC, and pretty tough.

And you can't[1] pour it down the sink

My entire flat is sans ceilings at the moment, awaiting an acoustic
replacement, so I've taken the opportunity to repaint the bedroom, which was
in the sort of dark burgundy colour that forty-something couples who read
Terry Pratchett and go to swingers' parties would choose. Even Polycell
one-coat flexible basecoat - "obliterates all colours in a single coat" -
needed 2 goes with the roller to stop the red showing through.

Still, all will be Farrow and Ball "Badger's Arse" or whatever the **** it's
called by next weekend

[1] shouldn't

 

You can. I was using it last week.

Hold on....
Found it: B&Q Low Odour Satinwood.

Bought the first tin years ago.



--
John

SV 650
Black it is
And Naked

 

IME all acrylics tend to tramline most dreadfully, which is one of the
reasons the synthetic brush has become so popular. They have improved a lot
since they were first launched, but still do not finish like an oil based
product.

Acrylic gloss is, at best only a high sheen finish. However, acylics don't
tend to yellow in dark places like alkyds do, so you can sleep soundly
knowing that the skirting board behing the sofa is a brillaint a white as
the bit everyone sees.

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

Well, in between doing different projects I would by new ones. But
not in between coats of paint...

 

Actually, I did know that as I used to use them to paint gaming
models.

Didn't think you could get them in quantities for decorating though.

 

I'll have a look for that. Mind you, I've nearly finished all the
woodwork now and the radiators were done last week.

Yeah, right.

Have you been peeking into my bedroom?

 

Ta, I'll look out for that in the future.

Thing is, I only tend to buy paint with "Dulux" written on it as I've
found own brand ones tend to be shite.

 

This is a very good policy where paint is concerned.

However, Dulux comes in 2 distinct flavours, retail and trade.

Go to a proper decorators merchant and get the trade variant, it is much
better than the retail equivalent.

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

I can appreciate that, having just painted my lounge with Crown. But I
used this B&Q stuff years ago and it has held up well. I've just used
it again for the second time.

If B&Q andHomebase do it, I'd be suprised if one of the major brands
didn't.

--
John

SV 650
Black it is
And Naked

 

Wrap 'em in cling film.

 

Ben wrote

You don't clean brushes between coats, you put them in a plastic bag
with three drips of the solvent in your paint.

 

Yeah, I'd noticed that. An ex-mate was a shop fitter and supplied me
with several tins of trade whie vinyl and satin to do my living room a
few years back. Much easier to apply and gave a better finish.

 

I don't think Trade in general is abetter option. It's normally
thinner and doesn't cover as well except on new plaster, or over the
same colour, IME.


--
John

SV 650
Black it is
And Naked

 

That's generally because the trade eschew non-drip (thixotropic) type paints
in preference for free-er flowing products as they give a better finish; for
instance, whilst you can practically trowel on non drip gloss, the finsih is
best described as "snotty". White trade liquid gloss has a higher titanium
dioxide content, which means it can "laid on" to give a dead smooth
obliterating finish at a thinner film thickness.

Trade Contract (rather than Vinyl) emuslion is good for new plaster as it
has less vinyl content, which means the plaster can still "breathe" despite
being painted.


--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)