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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Timo Geusch, Nov 15, 2003.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Seems to be a popular passtime, that...

    99/S Pan Euro, 1 owner, FSH, ABS/TCS model. Only downside is - 70k on
    the clock.

    Bloke wants 3k for it, I was thinking of paying 2.7k-2.8k. Good? Bad?
    Overpriced? Cheap?
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 15, 2003
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  2. Timo Geusch

    petrolcan Guest

    Not an expert, but my RS has 70K miles on it and was running well
    before the accident. IMO that mileage on that sort of bike shouldn't
    be a problem.
     
    petrolcan, Nov 16, 2003
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  3. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    petrolcan was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    I know that your RS didn't have a problem when it had done 65k
    :). Seriously, I'm not too worried about the mileage as the current
    owner has used it for long-distance commuting. Oh, and I've tried a
    rather clucked Pan with 120k on the clock (which hadn't been service
    properly IMHO) and that was still running OKish.

    It's more that I might be going back to Germany end of next year and
    I might have to sell the Pan, so I want to avoid overpaying for one
    now, seeing that I probably wouldn't take it with me. Of course, I
    could always drop the Italian beauties off at my mum's (especially
    because it'd a nightmare to try and register the Bimota in Germany)
    and just keep the Pan.

    I *think* the price is OK, especially if I can get a couple of hundred
    knocked off the price, but I'd like our market expert to comment :).
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  4. It had to happen eventually. Timo finds a cheap bike that *might* just
    turn out to be OK.

    That's a fair price he's asking, but I'd wave ukp2500 under his nose
    anyway, just to see what happens.

    The good thing is that it's a one-owner bike. Someone who's kept a Pan
    for that sort of mileage will almost certainly have cared for it, in
    which case the mileage is irrelevant. I'd definitely take a look. Have a
    good long look through the service history, too.

    It just says: "One very loving anorakky owner" to me, somehow.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 16, 2003
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  5. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Would sir like ketchup with his words?
    Aye, that was the plan.
    I'll go through it with a microscope, as usual. With the other ones
    there wasn't much to go through but this one should at least have the
    oil changed on a regular basis.
    I'd like to be positively surprised about it, so far it mainly says
    'long-distance commuter' - according to what he said on the phone he's
    got an 80-mile roundtrip into London every day and he wasn't doing a
    lot of touring on the side...

    Nevertheless, he could afford buying a new one and have it service by
    a mechanic he trusts.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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    Stritchy Guest

    My first Pan had over 90k when I bought her and she ran like a dream.

    With 1 owner and FSH, it's definitely worth a ride. On the downside,
    the cam belt will need replacing at 90k, which I presume is an
    expensive job.

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    Stritchy
    CX1100 'Ermintrude' BPoD (tm Pip)
    HOC#14808 BOTAFOT#129 COFF#23 MiB#17
    two#52 BREast#4 BOTAFOF#44
    eat SPAM to e-mail
     
    Stritchy, Nov 16, 2003
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  7. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Stritchy was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Doesn't worry me too much, TBH. Triumph servicing prices are rather
    high anyway and given the mileage I do, 90k is about a year in the
    future...
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  8. Timo Geusch

    Stritchy Guest

    The bikes not in Reading is it?

    Sounds like the bloke I bought my first Pan off

    --

    Stritchy
    CX1100 'Ermintrude' BPoD (tm Pip)
    HOC#14808 BOTAFOT#129 COFF#23 MiB#17
    two#52 BREast#4 BOTAFOF#44
    eat SPAM to e-mail
     
    Stritchy, Nov 16, 2003
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  9. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Stritchy was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Nah, Dunstable. Just up the road from me.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  10. The Fatherland's recovery services will all be placed on Red Alert, one
    presumes.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 16, 2003
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  11. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Could be worse. I could be going to Japan, and lots of recovery
    drivers could honorably disembowl themselves...
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  12. Stritchy said:
    I've just changed the belt on mine - took a couple of hours (including
    fag breaks and standing around pondering) and cost 40 quid for the belt.
    Shouldn't be too dear even at a dealers.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Nov 16, 2003
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  13. The Older Gentleman said:
    Are Pans generally owned by people like that then?
     
    Simon Atkinson, Nov 16, 2003
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  14. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Simon Atkinson was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Shouldn't you know?
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  15. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Simon Atkinson was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Cool, even more goodish news.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  16. Timo Geusch said:
    :)

    Most of the owners I know spend less time looking after the bike than I
    do - but I don't trust most dealers to do the job right and would rather
    over-service it myself than let it go to them these days.

    I am surprised you've seen so many shagged out Pans - most of the ones
    I've seen have been mint - regardless of age. Although, just after I
    bought mine, I saw a really crap looking one, about 2 years old with
    over 120,000 miles on the clock. I suspect 'long-distance' courier - it
    was filthy (really ingrained dirt) and sounded like a bag of nails.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Nov 16, 2003
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  17. Timo Geusch said:
    The only awkward jobs (that I'm aware of) are anything to do with the
    alternator (difficult, but not impossible, to access with the engine in
    the frame) and carb balancing - you just need a 20 foot long
    screwdriver.

    Make sure you get a post '94 model if you can, you get the uprated
    alternator post '94. Plenty of power for heated grips and jackets etc.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Nov 16, 2003
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Simon Atkinson was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Given that most owners probably wouldn't notice if the dealer filled
    the sump with jelly, I can only agree...

    Just cue the TOG/Niall Triumph valve clearance saga - the dealer
    involved made it into the top 20 in Rider Power...
    That might just have been me :). I'm on a fairly limited budget after
    finding out belatedly that my CN policy only covers bikes up to 4k, so
    I have to look at the cheaper end of the market. And there are some
    real mingers available - heated grips "fixed" by winding 'leccy tape
    around them and all that.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Simon Atkinson was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Oh, ta. You wouldn't own such an implement, would you?
    <Noted>

    The one I'll be looking at in a few moments is a '99. TBH I'm not too
    bothered about heated jackets or other accessories, but heated grips
    would be rather nice and useful.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 16, 2003
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  20. Timo Geusch said:
    Aye - I have sympathy for some dealers - they are competing with the
    'Riossi' style of dealership still who offer fixed low price services
    and the mug punters don't seem to understand that doing a service very
    cheap often means missing some of it out (or doing it the quickest way
    possible). As long as they see a clean looking dipstick and a branded
    oil filter, most people will believe they have had a proper service
    done.
    Shows how clueless most bike owners are. Dealers hate me - I check
    /everything/. That's one of the reasons I DIY now - it's as quick to do
    the job as it is to check it.
    Hmmmm... It's silly of people to do stuff like that (and leave it like
    that) on a bike they are selling. A new set of heated grips from HG as
    only a few quid and a nice looking bike adds 500 quid to the value.

    I usually put new grips on (if not heated or if at all worn) and footpeg
    rubbers if I'm selling. Bit like really cleaning the windows well on a
    car - makes the vehicle look a lot nicer without really sticking out as
    something you've done to tart it up.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Nov 16, 2003
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