Paging the Sugar Mongs

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Grimly Curmudgeon, May 5, 2010.

  1. Grimly Curmudgeon

    crn Guest

    I had a wierd infection of some kind in April, blood tests came back
    inconclusive but with high blood sugars. Doc says "see nurse for a
    starving blood test". Results today - scraped in just under the
    magic 5 limit - come back next year.

    Phew - YAY.
    I can still apply for a JAA flight medical under the 10 year rule at the
    end of July if nothing else goes wrong.
     
    crn, May 6, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    <waves broad brush>
     
    Hog, May 6, 2010
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    Mike Buckley Guest

    What's a high risk lifestyle for becoming a sugar mong? I do **** all
    exercise, drink a lot of fizzy drinks (all diet variants), don't do much
    chocolate or other sugary stuff but drink a load of alcohol - twice the
    weekly recommended limit according to a calc I just filled in. I get my
    eyes tested annually and nothing has ever cropped up yet.

    High risk?
     
    Mike Buckley, May 6, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    Are you overweight? That's the single most significant factor. Diet
    and exercise are generally seen as contributing to obesity, rather
    than being directly linked in themselves to diabetes.
     
    Ace, May 6, 2010
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    Mike Buckley Guest

    Good oh. I'm 2 stone away from being classed overweight I think.
     
    Mike Buckley, May 6, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Erm genetics is the most significant factor shirly?
     
    Hog, May 6, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Tricky question - every nanny-knows-best with a pet agenda claims that
    something is bad for you. Another theory will be along tomorrow.

    In general the "experts" agree that obesity (and thus all the causes of
    obesity) is a major risk factor and that some people are genetically
    predisposed to greater risk anyway.

    Current thinking:
    Sugar is not a cause, it is a symptom of the body failing (dangerously)
    to produce the hormone (insulin) which should regulate the sugar levels
    in the bloodstream.
    Cutting out sugar will not protect you from becoming diabetic, it will
    only make the symptoms less obvious. Sugars are, however, carbohydrates
    which can lead to obesity and thus onward to a high risk of diabetes.
    IOW - if you are not overweight and do not already have diabeties there
    is no good reason not to put sugar in your tea.
     
    crn, May 6, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    In type 1, yes. Not sure if that's true in type 2, and CBA to google
    right now. But in any case I was thinking more of 'factors I can do
    something about', which was implied by the question.
     
    Ace, May 6, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Delicately, I trust?
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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  10. Grimly Curmudgeon

    Beav Guest

    The magic 5 limit is actually 6.2 for a fasting test. A 5 means you'ere
    nowhere near having a sugar issue.
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Being a fat **** dun't help, but you've still got to have the gene. Without
    it, you don't go mongy.
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Oh it's you!

    I wouldn't worry about diabetes getting *you* Mike, not with how you're
    built. Well not T2 diabets anyway:)
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Indeed it is.
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    More fucking tripe. This is Type 2 diabetes under discussion here and Type
    2's can produce many times more insulin than normal and in fact, most T2's
    have an excess of insulin, often leading to insulinemia. They have a
    resistance to insulin though and that's why their sugar levels go high. It's
    got **** all to do with a lack of insulin.

    Other than it making tea taste like shite, you mean.
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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    Mike Buckley Guest

    I don't drink tea. Or coffee. Only water (occasionally diluted with
    some form of fruit laced concentrate) or alcohol.
     
    Mike Buckley, May 6, 2010
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  16. Who knows.
    Interstingly - for very interesting values of it - the diabetic nurse
    informed me that some people can be diabetic for seven years until the
    symptoms force them to seek out a doc.
    Today, and for the next fortnight I'll be eating normally and taking
    readings just to see what my normal lifestyle (hah!) readings are.
    I expect to be shocked.
    For the fortnight after that, I'll be attempting to eat more healthily.

    This little exercise is entirely for my own interest - not much point
    immediately leaping into a diabollock regime if I don't know how bad it
    was before.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 6, 2010
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  17. What are the symptoms, anyway?
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 6, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    platypus, May 6, 2010
    #38
  19. Heh.

    <Quick browse>

    None of that, really. I've had a couple of blood tests in recent years
    and they havem't thrown up anything either. Hmmm.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 6, 2010
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  20. Grimly Curmudgeon

    Beav Guest

    I know another bloke like you in that regard. He's tall and skinny, going
    bald, used to ride a motorbike and comes from darn sarf, but he's also a
    right fucking nancy boy :)
     
    Beav, May 6, 2010
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