Paging the Scientisti / HEPA filterati

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. How big is .3 microns?

    I usually leave one of my windows wide open to let the fag smoke out but
    the outside temperature is preventing me from doing this now.

    I've seen an air purifier that gets rid of stuff up to as small as .3 of
    a micron but how small is that?
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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    Stonge Guest

    One millionth of a meter = one thousandth of a millimetre.

    Pretty small.
     
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    Stonge Guest

    A human hair is about 100 microns thick (but it depends).
     
    Stonge, Dec 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    What sir wants is something like an extractor fan, but with a heat
    exchanger in it.
     
    Muck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    Indeed, or an electro-static air cleaner

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    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
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    Dan L, Dec 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    Like the tractor pulling people do.
     
    Muck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    Muck wrote:
    Erm, no, sorry.

    No idea what you mean.

    You'll have to explain

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    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    The people that do tractor pulling as a sport, some of their tractors
    have electro-static air filters on them. The bloke that was commentating
    told me so.
     
    Muck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    I've been googling and apparently, those electrostatic filters can take
    out stuff as small as 0.1 micron, like smoke and pollen.

    If you've won the lottery, you can get one of these;

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?R4491260A

    but I wouldn't think it's exactly hard to build a small unit for just
    such purpose.
     
    Muck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    How very odd. I can't see why they'd want to use electro static.

    You normally see them in pubs and clubs.

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 14, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    Maybe the pressure drop across the filter is less than a conventional
    one. That would be the only reason to use one in racing.
     
    Muck, Dec 14, 2004
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    Martin Guest

    0.0000003m

    or

    0.00003 cm

    or

    0.003 mm

    I think

    its 3 times 10 to the minus 7
    If the purifier is HEPA filtered it will remove the smoke.

    The production labs in my place of work are HEPA filtered to 99.9998
    percent and they use smoke upstream of them to test if they are leaking.

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    Martin, Dec 14, 2004
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  13. I had one of those, poshly known as an ioniser.

    I'd prefer to dust less often. Ta.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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  14. I've googled as well and apparently .3 is better than .1 as .3 is the
    hardest to catch and is the optimal size for getting into the repertory
    system. They get better with age as well, apparently: Just like a K+N
    ;o)
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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  15. Not a wuss, but it is getting expensive ;)
    Thanks. This is what I wanted to know. When there's bright sunlight
    coming through the window, I can see the individual particles of smoke
    so it's entirely possible these will be caught.
    Will the catch bacteria as well then?
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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    Martin Guest

    What you can see on a bright day are particles of soot and ash not smoke.

    This should make it all clear

    http://www.lakeair.com/particle.html
    not if the bugger in the lab is sneezing and shedding skin.

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    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Dec 14, 2004
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    Dan L Guest

    Erm, same principle, slightly different animal


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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Dec 14, 2004
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  18. Crikey, what an eye opener!

    I think a filter is coming on.
    Ewww. It's all round my home as well.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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    Martin Guest

    It doesn't bare thinking about. Just remember that chickens raised in a
    sterile environment die easier as their immune system is not developed
    and they don't have the correct gut fauna.

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    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Dec 14, 2004
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  20. So could I save a bundle and rub a few balloons on my jumper and stick
    them on the wall?
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 14, 2004
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