Paging the Macroisti - tubes or reversing ring?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donnie, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    Right, which is better, macro extension tubes or a reversing ring.

    I know that the real answer is a proper macro lens but there's not a
    cat in hells chance of that at the moment so it's either tubes or a
    reversing ring.

    Anyone got any recommendation of one over the other?

    Immediate advantage of a ring I can see is its small size, immediate
    advantage of tubes is the different lengths allowing different, well,
    focal lengths I guess.

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    Donnie, Oct 5, 2010
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    Kevin Stone Guest

    Right, which is better, macro extension tubes or a reversing ring.

    I prefer macro extension tubes, but as they were both under £10, I've got
    them both.

    Also, a reversing ring exposes the wrong side of the lens, which I don't
    like to do.

    I've eventually moved to a 50mm macro lens, which is far easier to use and
    has better DOF. Would like a longer focal length, but they get very
    expensive, very quickly.
     
    Kevin Stone, Oct 5, 2010
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  3. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    Extension tubes.
    Extension tubes.

    Do you really want to expose the wrong side of your lenses or damage the filter
    threads?
    You have EF-S lenses right? Older extension tubes wont work. You need to make
    sure that they will take EF-S lenses. Kenko are a well respected manufacturer.
    Expect to pay about £100 new, £50-80 second hand.
    Shame you don't know of anyone who could loan you a set with a f/1.4 50mm lens.
     
    petrolcan, Oct 5, 2010
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  4. Donnie

    Kevin Stone Guest

    I've have one of these:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200428738551

    and it works perfectly well for me in full manual mode.
     
    Kevin Stone, Oct 5, 2010
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  5. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    I suppose I should've been clearer. Older auto tubes wont accept the EF-S
    fitment.
     
    petrolcan, Oct 5, 2010
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  6. Donnie

    Kevin Stone Guest

    Right, which is better, macro extension tubes or a reversing ring.
    Indeed, EF extension tubes won't accept EF-S lenses. You were clear enough,
    it's me, I can't read!
     
    Kevin Stone, Oct 5, 2010
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  7. Donnie

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I just got a cheap adapter ringm, and buy old legacy lenses.

    On my E510 I use a 50mm Pentacon lens and tubes on M42 thread mount.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Oct 5, 2010
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  8. Donnie

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Absolutely. You can get some really good bargain lenses if you're
    prepared to go 'legacy', and prepared to work manually. Even then it's
    not all doom and gloom, you can now get adapter rings that activate the
    AF confirm light on many cameras, and works quite well with a manual
    lens (I have one here, and it's not bad).

    Not long ago I found an old Soligor 300mm lens (with the 'preset'
    aperture feature) for about £25, which gives me 600mm (equiv.) on my
    E510. It's not at all bad, and nice to have for those occasional nature
    shots.

    For the amount I use the 'extreme' lenses, it just ain't worth spending
    the silly money they are now.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Oct 5, 2010
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  9. Donnie

    Switters Guest

    *ding*
     
    Switters, Oct 6, 2010
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  10. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    Something I hadn't even thought of!! Christ! Common sense - 1 Donnie - 0

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    Donnie, Oct 6, 2010
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  11. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    petrolcan wrote:

    Ah **** that much??
    ummmmmmmmmmmmm aaaaaaa go on?

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    Donnie, Oct 6, 2010
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  12. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    Not always, I've picked up a few sets for less.
    The tubes and/or the lens?
     
    petrolcan, Oct 6, 2010
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    Vass Guest

    "Donnie" wrote in message
    I use a Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro on my Canon
    Main issue I have is when getting real close to an insect the DOF is a very
    fine slice of the subject
    see here
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/4983183609/
    I'm yet to try a Macro flash ring which would enable me to push the f stop
    up to around 14 and hopefully
    get a bit more in sharp focus.
    Also, taking the shot mainly involves focusing at maximum magnification and
    rocking the camera back and forward until the eyes
    or whatever you want in focus is 'just so' then snap the shot
    Of course, you can take a series of shots and focus stack, but thats even
    more hassle.
    hope to have helped
     
    Vass, Oct 6, 2010
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  14. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    fugnose, know very little about macro but am interested enough to try
    it out, you know I have the 18-50 and 55-250 so I want whatevers going
    to go ok with that, I suspect the 55-250 wouldnt be much good with
    tubes, though think the 18-50 would, but of course the lowest fstops
    4.0 ish so I guess that'll limit it compared to your 50mm at 1.4?

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    Donnie, Oct 7, 2010
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  15. Donnie

    Kevin Stone Guest

    tubes, though think the 18-50 would, but of course the lowest fstops
    I wouldn't be worrying too much about large apertures. You get so little
    depth of field, you'll be wanting at least f11 or smaller.
     
    Kevin Stone, Oct 7, 2010
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  16. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    All the tubes do is decrease the minimum focusing distance so there would be no
    reason not to use the 55-250.
    Ideally you want to be shooting at f8-11 or even smaller, it all depends onhow
    much light you have on the subject.

    I'll throw them in the post today.
     
    petrolcan, Oct 7, 2010
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  17. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    Wot 'e said.
     
    petrolcan, Oct 7, 2010
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  18. Donnie

    petrolcan Guest

    <stuff about macro>

    Oh yeah, your presence might be required on ukrmc.
     
    petrolcan, Oct 7, 2010
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  19. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    petrolcan wrote:

    Fair Play!

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    Donnie, Oct 7, 2010
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  20. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    Oh? Pop over there I shall

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    Donnie, Oct 7, 2010
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