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TOG@Toil · Nov 20, 2009

TOG@Toil wrote:

There's this generally held belief that corporate networks are far more
secure than home networks. My work is server security, and I'm
regularly faced with the "but it's on our internal LAN, behind the
firewalls, so it is secure" argument. I point out that there are best
part of 100,000 people who have access to that network so, no, it is
*not* secure.

Your home network will likely have a small handful of people on it, who
you would sincerely hope do not have any malicious intent with your
personal data. Your work network will have many more people who have
more motivation to access your payslip and use it for a purpose for
which it was not intended.

Internet nastiness is internal as well as external
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Very good point. But why increase the risk by having the details on
intranet *and* home machines which are much more vulnerable to
external attack that corporate systems?

Jim · Nov 20, 2009

TOG@Toil said:

Very good point. But why increase the risk by having the details on
intranet *and* home machines which are much more vulnerable to
external attack that corporate systems?
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In the near future there will be companies that will manage this for you
- you'll be able to get your payslips, bank statements, utility bills
all stored securely online.

'Hog · Nov 20, 2009

Jim said:

In the near future there will be companies that will manage this for
you - you'll be able to get your payslips, bank statements, utility
bills all stored securely online.
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You already can!

Jim · Nov 20, 2009

'Hog said:

You already can!
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TOG doesn't though.

The tipping point will come when a company like Google starts doing
deals with the banks and utility companies to bring it all into one
place for you rather than having to upload stuff yourself.

Wicked Uncle Nigel · Nov 20, 2009

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lady Nina

Hang on, I'm writing a report which highlights how certain areas of
Canada are in the top league of education in the world.
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Oh puh-leese.

A significant proportion of the cunts can't even speak English, eh?

Beav · Nov 21, 2009

ginge said:

Are you aware you're channeling today's Dilbert?
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Nope and IDGAF anyway.

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Beav · Nov 21, 2009

YTC#1 said:

In which case you have not put much thought into what will be kept, where
and how that info could save your life.
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I've put enough thought into it thank you.

When you, for what ever reason, are taken into a hospital 100s of miles
from home, unconscious, and they make a request for allergy info that
takes 3 days to arrive instead of a couple of mins, your possible death
may have been avoided.
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Have you never heard of notes? I have my wallet and in that wallet is enough
info to tell them who I am and a card telling "whoever" what my blood type
is, that I'm allergic to aspirin and that I'm a T1 diabollock. That's enough
info for anyone. Plus, I've managed 61 years so far without being on the
spine, so I think I'll survive and if I don't, I'll know nothing about it
anyway.

Just a small use for a connected system that makes sense.
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Feel free to sign up then.

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Beav · Nov 21, 2009

Colin Irvine said:

It's the only use I've ever heard used to justify it. I don't have any
allergies. Are there any other uses?
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Yeah, you can join the elite group of 20 million other people who's medical
records were left on the back seat of some official ****'s car.

Of course, it didn't happen/they weren't pertinent records/they were out of
date/it's all bollocks.

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Beav · Nov 21, 2009

I don't mind how the payslips and their info are communicated to us as
employees. What worries me is the insistence that the only way to keep
a payroll record (with all its sensitive data such as NI number)
henceforth is on your personal PC. Not a work PC, behind a corporate
firewall, but on a rather more vulnerable device.
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There'll be a record at your bank too. Forever.

OK, so sending payroll slips through the post has its risks, as does
emailing them, but in this instance a whole new security risk has
deliberately been opened up where it didn't exist before.
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For security reasons

Oh, and to make things better we've just been told that the slips can
*only* be viewed on a Windoze PC and *only* in IE7, so us Mac bods
(and those who choose to use Firefox, Chrome, Opera or indeed anything
other than IE) are stuffed.

Well, no worries. I'll demand a paper slip, as ever.
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But will your demands be met?

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Beav · Nov 21, 2009

'Hog said:

You already can!
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He said "securely"

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