Paging the Guzzisti - UJs

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006.

  1. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    My Quota's just passed 35K miles and I'm about to replace the UJ - a
    replacement I ordered arrived a week or two ago.

    It looks fairly straightforward apart from the support bearing, which
    I notice is retained with a circlip.

    How difficult is the bearing to remove? Any hints/caveats? Bear in
    mind that I can probably machine up simple pullers & other tools.

    Ta.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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  2. Do you need to replace the support bearing at all? In my experience of
    Guzzis, it's the UJ that fails, but the support bearing seems to last
    forever.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 8, 2006
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  3. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Do you need to replace the support bearing at all? In my experience of
    Guzzis, it's the UJ that fails, but the support bearing seems to last
    forever.[/QUOTE]

    Well, I assumed that I would,: when I asked Spares GB (or whatever
    they call themselve now) if I needed anything else, the bearing was
    mentioned as a possibility and it seemed logical to replace it all in
    one go.

    If its rarely necessay though then I won't bother.

    Actually, I can easily check it in situ.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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  4. Well, I assumed that I would,: when I asked Spares GB (or whatever
    they call themselve now) if I needed anything else, the bearing was
    mentioned as a possibility and it seemed logical to replace it all in
    one go.

    If its rarely necessay though then I won't bother.

    Actually, I can easily check it in situ.[/QUOTE]

    Just do that. When I sold my last Spada, it had done over 50k and eaten
    two UJs, but the bearing was fine.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 8, 2006
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  5. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman says...
    How much is a UJ for a Guzzi?
     
    Lozzo, Dec 8, 2006
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    sweller Guest

    I've had my T3 for 11 years, 60,000+ miles (the bike has probably done
    over 200,000) and it's on the same UJ and support bearing as it came with.

    My tip is to get the inner race face and UJ bearing face totally
    degreased and spotless. Use lashings of loctite bearing fit on the UJ
    and assemble in the swing arm with it sitting as a "U" on the bench.
    Leave for a few hours (6 or so) then fit to bike.

    Practice fitting the swing arm before you fit the UJ as it's a bit of a
    knack getting the swing arm back in the frame and you want to avoid
    knocking it about too much.
     
    sweller, Dec 8, 2006
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    MikeH Guest

    "They all do that sir"
     
    MikeH, Dec 8, 2006
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  8. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Something like £120.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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    David Thomas Guest

    <snort> that's brightened up my morning... ta :)

    David
     
    David Thomas, Dec 8, 2006
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  10. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well, I may just be being paranoid, but the footpegs seem to be
    getting a bit tingly and some people reckon that UJs only last this
    long on road bikes, let alone a trailie with high articulation.
    There's no obvious slop or clunks or anything in the transmission, but
    having heard stories of rear wheels locking up, it's not something I'm
    prepared to gamble on.
    Ok, ta.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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  11. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Heh.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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    JB Guest

    *Ding*!
    I've had one go at about 55-60mph. It split the ~3mm thick steel
    'tube'/swinging arm it lives in. Shat myself big time. It did indeed lock
    the wheel up. I had previously ignored the tingling footrest for about
    1500miles too.
    JB
     
    JB, Dec 8, 2006
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  13. Pip Luscher

    MikeH Guest

    Just how big is your fuel tank?
     
    MikeH, Dec 8, 2006
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  14. Pip Luscher

    JB Guest

    Always about a litre smaller than needed to get to the next petrol staion.

    JB
     
    JB, Dec 8, 2006
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  15. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Ah, the variable unit L, a unit of capacity thet will always almost,
    but not quite, get you there.

    L may be linkable mathematically to R, though this has never been
    proven.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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    JB Guest

    <g>

    JB
     
    JB, Dec 8, 2006
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  17. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    Pip Luscher says...
    About the same price as a quality chain and sprocket set, which I'd
    expect to see 25K from.

    Are these shafties really as maintenance free and cheaper to run as
    people reckon then?
     
    Lozzo, Dec 8, 2006
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  18. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I nearly said "slightly cheaper overall and less hassle that a C+S"
    but restrained myself.

    Well, shafts generally are lower maintenance overall, especially if
    you take cleaning both the chain and the bike into account. 35K miles
    vs IME ~= 15K miles, depending on the bike - remember I tend not to
    ride fours, which I'm sure makes a difference to chain life. Shafts
    tend to be quieter, too.

    Ah. That was a bite, wasn't it?
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 8, 2006
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  19. How does it smell?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 8, 2006
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  20. Aherm...

    <points at 200+Kmiles shaft and rear drive assy on ShiteOldGS>

    Some just get it right. This problem with Guzzi shafts baffles me - it's
    been happening for decades.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 8, 2006
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