Paging the grammar Nazis

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Cunningham, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. Andy Cunningham

    porl Guest

    It's common usage to "fax someone a copy" as well, precisely the idiot-speak
    we're currently arguing. Being commonly used isn't the kind of qualification
    that has any merit in this debate, imo.

    Now get pedantic or **** off.
     
    porl, Mar 4, 2005
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  2. 'fax' is a shortened version of 'fascimile', which itself is a verb (and
    a noun, of course) meaning, 'to make a facsimile of'.

    When you use a 'fax machine' to 'make a fascimile of' a document, you
    are sending it via a telephone line. So in your example above, you're
    saying, 'I shall [make a copy by fascimile] and sent that copy to you'.

    So 'fax a copy' is no more incorrect than, 'I'll post you a letter'.
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 4, 2005
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  3. 'send'
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 4, 2005
  4. Andy Cunningham

    porl Guest

    "Make" is a verb, "fascimile" (sic) isn't. And get back in your hole.
     
    porl, Mar 4, 2005
  5. So that must mean it is (or will be) proper English.
    Any pedantry other than my penantry just ain't pedantic enough eh?
    Is that my pedantic or your pedantic?

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Mar 4, 2005
  6. Andy Cunningham

    porl Guest

    No doubt. But until the dictionaries take it up the cause will be championed
    by those valiant souls who would not go quietly into the night.
    Yours is more anti-pedantry. "It exists, therefore it's intrinsically
    correct". I don't think you've quite got the spirit of it.
     
    porl, Mar 4, 2005
  7. From _The Oxford Concise English Dictionary_ (OUP) ...

    'facsimile v.tr. ("facsimiled", "facsimileing") make a facsimile of *in
    facsimile as an exact copy [modern Latin from Latin _fac_, imperative of
    _facere_, "make" + _simile_, neut. of _similis_ "like"'
    Apology accepted.
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 4, 2005
  8. Andy Cunningham

    Preston Kemp Guest

    He bacardi be expected to get gin the spirit of it if you don't explain
    the rules.
     
    Preston Kemp, Mar 4, 2005
  9. *wine!* [1]


    [1] don't let me down, flash ....
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 4, 2005
  10. Andy Cunningham

    Pip Guest

    That term makes my fucking shit itch.

    What is wrong with "record", eh? Or even "tape", if a point could be
    stretched. Or "to film", in the context of a camera.
     
    Pip, Mar 4, 2005
  11. Andy Cunningham

    Pip Guest

    It's just ... wrong.
    Of course. Keeps me warm.
     
    Pip, Mar 4, 2005
  12. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Pip
    Life has never been the same since that Fox-Talbot bastard. Imagine the
    sheer cheek of it; enabling just any old oik to make pictorial
    representations, without having served time at the pestle grinding paint
    for the master.

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 4, 2005
  13. Andy Cunningham

    Eiron Guest

    Don't mention da guerre.
     
    Eiron, Mar 5, 2005
  14. Andy Cunningham

    marina Guest

    Fox Talbot had a studio here in Reading - there's a little plaque (not
    a blue one) on the wall. Was he from here does any one know? Anyway,
    it's not all his fault - what about Daguerre?

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    marina, Mar 5, 2005
  15. Also v.tr. (sense 2), 'convert (a sound, broadcast etc). into permanent form
    for later reproduction', from Latin _recordari_ 'to remember'
    (_The Concise Oxford English Dictionary_)
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 5, 2005
  16. Andy Cunningham

    porl Guest

    But the verb record and the noun record are even pronounced differently.
    Tape= the tape within the small, square plastic box.
     
    porl, Mar 5, 2005
  17. Andy Cunningham

    rb Guest

    "time shift"

    BTW, do you dial phone numbers?
     
    rb, Mar 5, 2005
  18. Andy Cunningham

    Lord Frag Guest

    porl barfed:
    "re-cord" & "ree-cord". Yes, I thought of that just as I hit the send
    button :)
    See? Billions of bloody definitions for the same words. English sux!

    (or
    "re-cord" - medium for storing analogue audio information
    "tape" - magnetic medium for storing analogue audio information
    "video" - magnetic medium for storing analogue video & audio information
    is the what those words mean in my head)
     
    Lord Frag, Mar 5, 2005
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