Paging the cyclisti: fixed-gear bikes and brakes

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. TOG@Toil

    Krusty Guest

    I'd expect it to work reasonably well in the summer, & be a miserable
    failure in the winter.
     
    Krusty, Apr 15, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    It's better in the summer, no doubt, but consider the catchment area
    an edge of town 1159 bed hospital has to get it staff from, the shift
    patterns involved, and the requirement for even local-ish people not
    on one of the main hospital bus routes to change busses via the city
    centre, and you can see why it has gone to shit.
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    It's completely insane, they tried it on in Leeds, restricting staff car
    parking and making it expensive.
    What you get as a result is nurses walking and standing at bus stops in the
    middle of the night in very dodgy areas.

    Motorised personal transport is the great invention of our age.
     
    Hog, Apr 15, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    Single parents working part time and needing to pick up children on
    the way home also suffer, as does anyone that lives in a nearby town
    and commutes say 10-15 miles.
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Oh well, that's all right then. "I read it on the internet" is now an
    officially recognised source of knowledge, right?
     
    Ace, Apr 15, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    Totally. I'd hapily cycle to work every day if it was up to 7 miles
    each way, and I didn't have to cycle in a suit.

    Like you, 50 miles to the office would be pushing it a bit though.
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    And people who work from home. I'm being financially penalised for
    causing zero pollution on my commute. It's so unfair!
     
    Krusty, Apr 15, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    I see working from home as cost neutral. The extra heating,
    electricity, etc. is more than ofset against putting £60 of fuel in
    the car each week.
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2011
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  9. Easy. On your 'work at home' days, drag the bike out and cycle round the
    block.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 15, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    I think my (and others') interpretation is rather different.

    I suspect that the main point of the scheme was to reduce the number of
    cars on the roads during busy times. The times when folk commute to
    work. Hence the catchy name - "Cycle to Work Scheme"

    A fringe benefit is that people will then have access to a cycle for
    their leisure activities and that helps the Govt.'s aim of getting
    people fit and healthy. Hence why the bikes can be used for leisure as well.
    That's not quite what it says though is it?

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim21664.htm

    "the employees must use the cycle or equipment mainly for qualifying
    journeys. <snip>. Other use of the cycle, for instance pleasure use or
    use by members of the employee's family will not disqualify the
    exemption provided that the other use is not the main use of the bicycle."

    They go on to say

    "Employees are not expected to keep detailed records of time spent
    cycling or miles travelled for the purpose of this 'main use' test.
    Accept that the test is satisfied unless there is clear evidence to
    suggest that less than half of the use of the cycle or equipment is on
    qualifying journeys. If it is clear that there is substantial use of the
    cycle for qualifying journeys, do not make special enquiries about the
    extent of any other use."

    Which I interpret as saying that it's intended to be used for journeys
    to work, and to keep the system simple (and not give firms a
    bureaucratic burden that would discourage them from offering the scheme)
    there is no need for firms to keep detailed records. However, they
    should look out to see if the employee is taking the piss and it's
    obvious that they're not using the bike for half their journeys
    From a scheme that encourages cycling to work? Perhaps. HMRC says you
    shouldn't though (and I can't find the reference, darn it), but with the
    expectation that you will be using the bike > 50% of your journeys to
    meet some form of public transport e.g. cycling to the train station for
    your onward journey to work.
    It all comes down to the interpretation of the terms "Cycle to Work
    scheme" and "the employees must use the cycle or equipment mainly for
    qualifying journeys". Most seem to interpret that to mean that the
    employee is provided with a bike to cycle to work and that the scheme is
    intended for primarily for that purpose. Of course, if the correct
    interpretation is "go on, fill your boots, after all we're not looking",
    then of course, you are correct.

    More importantly, would you mind if I gave your steam cleaner a go over
    the next few days?
     
    Gyp, Apr 15, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Wow, she cleans her own engine bay? <impressed>
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 15, 2011
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    Lozzo Guest

    How's that for a euphmism?

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Apr 15, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    On 14/04/11 01:32, ogden wrote:
    Rationalise? She bought a Monster S4R, one of the nuttiest bikes I've
    ever written, because she preferred the look of it to a standard Monster.

    Rational doesn't come into it...
     
    Eddie, Apr 16, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    I paid the extra for a K4 thou over a K3 thou just because I wanted one
    with the white fairing lowers.

    I am, however, an idiot.
     
    ogden, Apr 16, 2011
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    Thomas Guest

    Certainly not if you think they'll ever reply.
     
    Thomas, Apr 16, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    It's as good an excuse as any to buy a proper one.
     
    ginge, Apr 16, 2011
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  17. When buying Ducatis, 'twas ever thus.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 17, 2011
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