Paging the cyclisti: fixed-gear bikes and brakes

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Apr 13, 2011.

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    crn Guest

    I have a bloody nice CBR600F with an optional custom gell seat as
    intended or my 5'4" daughter.
    Looking for a new home.
     
    crn, Apr 14, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Remind me again, how does one spell oxymoron?
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Hmmm... that might be interesting. I'm not sure what she thinks of
    fully-faired sports bikes at the moment, though. I'll have a word.
     
    Eddie, Apr 14, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    I don't think her legs are that long; she could barely get her feet down
    on the Monster.
    Maybe, I still think it's too tall. It also probably fails the other
    criteria she mentioned: being vaguely practical enough for commuting to
    work with a laptop.
     
    Eddie, Apr 14, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Thing is, the suspension travel is so long I'm sure it could be lowered
    without any particular difficulty. Springs, oil, that kind of shit. It's
    only science.

    I commute to work with a laptop. On a KTM Duke. What does she do with
    it, balance the thing on her head African-style while pulling wheelies?

    I have two bikes at the moment - a sportsbike that'll clock up 20k
    before the end of the year, and a supermoto type thing that snaps large
    pieces of metal if you look at it a bit wrong. Trouble is, as hard as I
    try, I can't find a suitable replacement for either. The gixer is a
    brilliant (if slightly uncomfortable) long-distance touring weapon and a
    perfectly superlative track toy, and the KTM is a brilliant (if licence-
    threatening) cross-town commuter (apart from the whole fall-apart-if-
    the-day-has-a-y-in-it thing).

    That said, there's fucking thousands of bikes out there and everyone has
    the capacity to rationalise a shit decision. So never mind the stumpy
    legs and arms, get something shit but comfy. Everyone loves a crap but
    practical bike, right? Yeah, sorted!
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    I'm trying to work out if you genuinely believe that or whether there's
    a wry smile sneaking out from behind your beard.
     
    Gyp, Apr 14, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    It's like I said, he's happily taking advantage of a poorly regulated
    scheme that lets him get away with a free gov. handout.

    And good luck to him for that, but let's not try and pretend
    otherwise, eh?
     
    Ace, Apr 14, 2011
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    CT Guest

    Champ the benefits cheat - has a certain ring to it, dontcha think?

    :eek:)
     
    CT, Apr 14, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    From which you deduce that "at least 50% ... for work purposes" can be
    relegated to "nobody cares"? Like Ace I doubt that someone of your
    integrity really believes that.
     
    Colin Irvine, Apr 14, 2011
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    nicknoxx Guest

    And the weather. In the dry even old rim brakes will stop pretty
    effectively but in the wet discs are much better.
     
    nicknoxx, Apr 14, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    It's just another bizarre example of a tax and benefit system evolved beyond
    any common sense. It's also suspiciously tree huggy, I'd be more
    enthusiastic is it was focussed on obtaining high performance motorcycles.
     
    Hog, Apr 14, 2011
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    Eiron Guest

    But tyres aren't better in the wet so it might be best to use brakes that
    automatically reduce their efficiency in the wet. :)
     
    Eiron, Apr 14, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    Mountain biking tends to have lots of changes in surface material - for
    example cycling through 3" of mud, then a minute later descending a steep
    hill on gravel: but your rims are covered in mud. These kinds of Aaaaaaaaa
    moments are why I bought a bike with disc brakes.
     
    Jim, Apr 14, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    P just started working for a company which apparently gives 0% motorcycle
    loans as a benefit. I don't know if that is a common perk - I've
    certainly never met it before.
     
    Jim, Apr 14, 2011
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    nicknoxx Guest

    I'm excluded because I'm self employed. Morally should I be allowed the
    same cheap bicycles as employees if there's no need to use it for commuting.
     
    nicknoxx, Apr 15, 2011
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    Heh. My brain hurts trying to work that out.
     
    TOG@Toil, Apr 15, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Where did you get that idea from? I rather thought, from the name,
    that the idea was to get people cycling to work.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_argument
     
    Ace, Apr 15, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    But AFAIK that's not what the govmt says, so how do you infer it?
    That's a genuine question, BTW.
     
    Colin Irvine, Apr 15, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    I have just had a search onh Hansard and skimmed through the "Behavioural
    Impact Analysis" report at
    http://www.cycletoworkalliance.org.uk/oldernews.html

    None of these sources address the question of efficiency: i.e. how many
    people buy a bicycle through the scheme but never use it to cycle to
    work. In fact they all seem completely disinterested in finding out the
    answer to what would seem to be an important question.

    For instance:
    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2008-07-15b.215711.h

    I think Champ is right in that within government the scheme is seen to be
    unquestionably good. The additional red tape to enforce it properly (and
    what actually could you do? Take people's bikes away?) would probably
    lead to many fewer people signing up for it.

    That said, I do think Champ is taking the piss. It's similar to the MP
    expenses scandal: the system is set up to allow said piss-taking to
    occur, but it doesn't make it moral to do so.
     
    Jim, Apr 15, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    I'm sure if you spoke to people in local government round here they'd
    disagree. There are actually objectives set to get people out of using
    cars for daily commutes and onto bicycles... along with a reduction in
    workplace parking spaces.

    And you can guess how well that's worked at the new local hospital,
    just citing one example..
     
    ginge, Apr 15, 2011
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