Paging the cyclisti: fixed-gear bikes and brakes

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Apr 13, 2011.

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    Tosspot Guest

    Oh go on, talk dirty to me again...
     
    Tosspot, Apr 13, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Christ, they were shit, weren't they? I actually have a set at home,
    IIRC, which I think were the original fitment on the Dawes Galaxy[1] I
    had some years ago. I changed them to something better - can't
    remember what, TBH, but they'd come off one of the other two road
    bikes I had at the time - which were better, although still not
    brilliant.

    [1] Which then went to Darsy - who has it now, I wonder?
     
    Ace, Apr 13, 2011
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    Tosspot Guest

    Tbf, compared to cheap end side pulls, they weren't that bad. But
    modern direct pulls are *so* much better. Even cheap names like Point
    or Tektro will stop your front wheel as soon as look at it.

    I have discs all round now, and am pretty ambivalent. Less maintenance,
    don't wear rims, but don't have theraw stopping power of my old Tektros.
     
    Tosspot, Apr 13, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    Have you ridden it to work yet?
     
    SIRPip, Apr 13, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    Not quite. After one year you have to pay 7% inc VAT (£58) to continue
    to have use of the bike or you have to hand it back to your employer
    (from whom you are leasing it)

    If you instead want to buy it outright after a year, you need to pay 25%
    (£208). After 4 years it's considered to be worth that 7%, so that's the
    point where you can cash in your 7% deposit in exchange for the bike and
    start a new cycle to work scheme if you so wish.
     
    Gyp, Apr 13, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    WTF would anyone bother with so much fucking hassle!
     
    Hog, Apr 13, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    Well, if you only want a new one every 5 years then you get to buy it
    for about 1/2 price (or more if you're a standard rate tax payer which
    seems rather perverse)

    Actually, Champ might be OK if he bought his at the start of the year,
    as the revised rules came in at the start of this tax year. Initially
    folk were getting a new bike every year at approx 50% effective discount
    which they could buy for a nominal fee (£5-£10) at the end of the year.
    That was very appealing.

    Now, it ain't so appealing. Especially if your employer doesn't claim
    back the VAT and insists that the bike is used for the majority of trips
    to work.

    I bought my bike cash.
     
    Gyp, Apr 13, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    It's more of the insanity of taking away too much in tax then handing it
    back in allowances/benefits with all the attendant costs involved.
     
    Hog, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Point of order: the £1000 limit is due to the group consumer credit
    licence issued by the OFT to cover Cycle to Work schemes. The employer
    can offer packages in excess of £1000, but will need to obtain their own
    consumer credit licence.
    I know, 'cos I set up the Cycle to Work scheme at my previous employer.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    mark Guest

    :D

    I
     
    mark, Apr 13, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    I was going to offer a loan of a Firestorm to get her started, but
    first has suddenly got hard to engage, which is a bit of a pain. Will
    have to investigate now ..

    Paul.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Now I've thought about, ISTR that even in the case where the employer
    sticks to the £1000 limit, it's possible to purchase a cycle that costs
    in excess of that amount, but you have to pay the excess yourself
    immediately, without the benefit of any tax avoidance.

    Any questions?
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Heh.

    Very kind, but I *really* don't think she'd be keen on that. The
    Firestorm's probably about the same size as the Falco, and she never did
    more than sit on that (the first one, that is) and declare that she
    wasn't happy with the stretch to the bars.

    Maybe when she's more confident she'd be OK with it, but at the moment
    that's not the case.

    I'm vaguely thinking about something like an early Hornet 600, but I'm
    open to other suggestions.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    KTM 640 Supermoto. I would recommend the Duke, in the traditional
    fashion, but she'd probably prefer one that doesn't snap in a strong
    breeze.
     
    ogden, Apr 13, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    Ah well, only a thought. If she likes V Twins, then the standard VTR
    thou is probably soft enough to get her back into the swing of things.

    Last time I had gear selection problems an oil change solved it, but
    this had new oil about 18 months ago, and I did 6 miles on it since
    the MOT. Not sure how oil can go off sitting in the sump .. ;)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 13, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    There's a slight clue in the name of the scheme. Which suggests that,
    as you have no intention of riding it to work, you and your employer
    are merely conspiring to unfairly take adv advantage of a state
    benefit.
     
    Ace, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Tempting. Very tempting... probably not what she's got in mind, but
    maybe I could convince her.

    But what about the seat height? Isn't it quite tall?
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    Dunno. A consumer credit licence doesn't cost that much, and many
    companies will have one already.
    http://xkcd.com/386/
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    Eddie Guest

    I'm not sure if she likes V-twins in particular, or whether she just
    liked the look and size of the Ducati Monster.

    What she'd like is a Monster S2R; she likes the single-sided swing arm
    and side-stacked exhausts, and it's a bit less loony than the S4R. But
    all she wants at the moment is something cheap-ish and easy to ride, to
    get her confidence and NCB back.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    I have no trouble getting both feet down on the Duke and I have a 31"
    inside leg or thereabouts.

    The 17" wheels knock an inch or two off the seat height. Makes a world
    of difference.
     
    ogden, Apr 13, 2011
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