Paging the central heating-isti

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, May 4, 2006.

  1. Gas fired condensing boiler.

    Thermostat on the boiler for water temperature.

    Thermostat in hallway for central heating.

    Switch off central heating, on control panel under stairs, leaving hot
    water function running - and it doesn't get hot. Only gets hot if you go
    back to CH and turn up the hallway thermostat.

    Turning up thermostat on boiler makes no difference.

    Turning up thermostat on hot water tank makes no difference.

    Hot water tank now running on immersion heater as it's the only way we
    can get hot water unless we want to live in a greenhouse.

    Diagnosis? Solution?
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 4, 2006
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  2. The current tenant of the last house I rented would be interested to see
    the answer to this. Shame he won't.



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    DoetNietComputeren, May 4, 2006
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  3. GAMI
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 4, 2006
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    Andrew Scott Guest

    This happens in my house as well. Timer clock thing has both HW and CH
    switches on it. CH works independantly, but the HW requires the CH to be
    on. I don't have a fancy condensing boiler though, I dont think :) I have
    a 3-year old Baxi Back Boiler number. Don't know if it makes any difference
    to the equation, but I also have an Immerser switch which works, but costs a
    bomb to run, so I dont.

    Andy
     
    Andrew Scott, May 4, 2006
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    SP Guest

    We had probs with our CH a couple of times last year, ended out
    replacing the valve and the water pump within a short period of time of
    each other.

    This link might be useful to you, but to be honest I rely on a man who
    can..

    http://home.btconnect.com/centralheating/helpmate/Central_Heating/centra
    l_heating_problems.htm


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    SP, May 4, 2006
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    Dan White Guest

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    Shut all the valves off on your radiators?
     
    Dan White, May 4, 2006
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    Nicknoxx Guest

    It sounds like a three-way electrically operated valve which is supposed
    to divert hot water from the water system to the heating system is
    stuck. It will depend on whether your system is Y-plan or S-plan or
    "other" but should not be difficult for a competant person to fix and
    shouldn't cost much either.

    I'm a bit pissed so this advice may be bollocks so wibble. .. .
     
    Nicknoxx, May 4, 2006
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  8. I get a similar problem with mine. It's the y valve on my older system.
    But I have a shut off valve (tap) I can turn off to stop the hot water
    going round the CH radiators. You might have one.
     
    eric the brave, May 4, 2006
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    Andrew Scott Guest

    I knwo the thing your'e talking about there, had one in my old house, which
    wasn;t a back-boiler. Wee square box in the middle of a pipe next to the
    immerser boiler thingy. Had a 3-way switch with "Open" "Closed" or "Manual"
    on it. have no idea where the immerser is in here never mind the switch. I
    might phone the council to look at mines and let you know what my diagnosis
    was. I had just decided it was supposed to do it...

    Andy
     
    Andrew Scott, May 5, 2006
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    raden Guest

    It sounds like a diverter valve type of problem, but ...

    If you went into a Bike shop and said you had a problem with a 750,
    what's the first question they might ask ?

    make and model maybe ?
     
    raden, May 5, 2006
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  11. I'd suspect a stuck 3 port valve, but I can't see how turning up the CH
    hallway stat would right it. Unless it's stuck partially open, so the
    majority of heated water is going to the rads and say a third is going
    to the hot cylinder.
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 5, 2006
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  12. "A blue one"
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 5, 2006
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  13. I hadn't actually. We just switched on the immersion heater.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 5, 2006
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Whereas I wouldn't, necessarily. If the boiler isn't chugging into life when
    you crank
    up the water thermostat and water heating is switched on at the control
    board,
    then it is more likely going to be a thermostat/electrical/control box
    problem.

    The reason the water will be getting hot if you force the CH on and you
    still
    have the water control circuit switched on is that the tri-way valve will be
    in it's mid-position, supplying water to both the CH and water circuits.
    Try turning off the water heating on the control board and repeat. If the
    water
    still gets hot it'll either be a buggered valve or (more likely given the
    lack of
    boiler activity when the water thermostat is turned up) the control
    circuitry.

    If you can access the tri-way diverter valve and it has a manual override
    (lots do). A simple way to verify that it isn't the diverter is to switch
    it manually to CH only and crank up the boiler (using the CH thermostat),
    only the radiators should get hot. Then (after the rads have cooled down)
    manually switch the valve to 'water' and crank up the boiler again. Hot
    water and cool rads should result. If that works, then your diverter valve
    is OK. Look to the electrics particularly the water themostat control
    circuits.
     
    Alex Ferrier, May 5, 2006
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  15. Cool, It's all explained here:

    http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/plumbing/plumbingpage2.html

    simonb
     
    eric the brave, May 5, 2006
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    TOG Guest

    TOG, May 5, 2006
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    raden Guest

    Which is why making known the make and model would be a very good next
    step
     
    raden, May 5, 2006
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