Paging the Atkinisti - re food labels.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donegal Paul, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2004
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  2. Donegal Paul

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Ben Blaney, Nov 24, 2004
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  3. Cane wrote
    Doesn't this sort of thing depend on how you define exercise?

    Put me in front of a nekkid woman and I will work up a sweat worthy of
    any racehorse and enjoy every minute of it. Put me in front of a
    gymnasium and I will go looking for a kebab stall.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 24, 2004
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  4. Bear wrote
    What is to hate? Cauli is just so much tasteless crap. Cabbage otoh,
    especially the white bits, is yummy.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 24, 2004
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  5. I would have thought that the title of the journal piece would have
    been a clue:

    "Genetic Taste Responses to 6-n-Propylthiouracil Among Adults: a
    Screening Tool for Epidemiological Studies"

    And the first line of the abstract:

    "Genetically mediated taste responsiveness to 6-n-propylthiouracil
    (PROP) has been linked to reduced acceptance of some bitter foods"

    might have been a bit of a giveaway too..
    In the summary:

    "Report on a symposium on how we inherit our sense of taste, how that
    affects which foods we like or hate and the ways that"

    And further on down it talks about the genetic mechanism of taste - how
    we are determined to be tasters or supertasters..


    All of which seems to suggest to me that you didn't actually read
    either of the articles in anything other than an utterly superficial
    way.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2004
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  6. Donegal Paul

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Or that the articles don't *prove* that those things are genetic.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 24, 2004
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  7. <Gives up in disgust>

    Are you being intentionally thick? The articles (of themselves) don't
    attempt to *prove* that those things are genetic - they are based on
    (and have the cites to) other studies that do prove it.

    You will be suggesting that tongue-curling isn't genetic next! Or
    demanding that I post exhaustive proof..

    So unless you are prepared not to be spoon-fed and do some searching
    yourself I would suggest that you have no basis for questioning what I
    posted - except a desire for me to be proved wrong.

    Go get a life.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2004
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  8. Donegal Paul

    Ben Blaney Guest

    No, intentionally sceptical and using critical analysis.
    Ok, so you posted something that doesn't prove something you posted,
    in order to prove it? That's a strange way to do things.

    And it's funny that *you* are trying to have science on your side in
    an argument.

    How about this: I *believe* that genetics doesn't affect taste
    preferences. Are you going to tell me my beliefs are irrational? My
    beliefs are unlikely to be true? How do you combat that, in such a
    way that doesn't undermine your own beliefs in this God fellow?
    You posted it. I have every right to question it. You haven't proved
    it.
    Yes, I'm certain to take that from someone who believes in God and
    likes prog rock.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 24, 2004
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  9. Ah. The old "I won't believe it until I experience it with my own
    eyes" ploy.
    Nope. I did a quick scan to find the article I had read about genetic
    factors in taste.

    And foolishly assumed that anyone looking at it would look at the
    references at the bottom of the article if they wanted to find out what
    it was based on. My mistake.
    Ah. So now we get to the nub: "Phil can't possibly have a rational
    reason for anything because he is religious"

    Would you like some fries with your prejudice?
    And I can produce proper peer-reviewed papers of studies that show that
    it does. Which according to your rationalist view means they must be
    right.
    Show me the scientific, peer-reviewed, published papers that says he
    doesn't exist..
    Nowt so blind as them that doesn't want to see.
    At least I'm not certain of my own infalliability..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 24, 2004
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  10. Donegal Paul

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I'm not claiming that God does exist. You do, and your only evidence
    is one book of questionable origin.
    On the God thing, you are.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 24, 2004
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  11. Donegal Paul

    Donegal Paul Guest

    Those *freedom* fries?
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    Donegal Paul, Nov 24, 2004
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  12. Donegal Paul

    Donegal Paul Guest

    Sooooooo.....those food labels eh? Buggers they are.......<fx:shuffles off>
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    Donegal Paul, Nov 24, 2004
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  13. Donegal Paul

    Lady Nina Guest

    Interesting articles, thanks Phil.
    Yes it is. It depends on the dominance or not of specific alleles and
    how these influence message transmission in the neuro chemistry. Which
    is an area we know very little about but we're nibbling round the
    edges.

    'it leaves behind the bitter taste of saccharine'
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 24, 2004
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  14. Donegal Paul

    Lady Nina Guest

    <goes and hides>
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 24, 2004
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  15. Donegal Paul

    Lady Nina Guest

    Oi! You leave prog rock out of this youngster. There's many a
    doctrinal schism but it's as good a religion as any.
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 24, 2004
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  16. Donegal Paul

    Lady Nina Guest

    Collection of books, Mr B, books. Shame on you.
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 24, 2004
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  17. Donegal Paul

    AndrewR Guest

    Question from the audience: Does Mr Launchbury have any thoughts on the
    speculation that the gospels may be based, in part, on an earlier work that
    quoted Jesus' sayings, the so-called Q book?

    My supplementary question is I was wondering if anybody else had noticed
    that a lot of politicians these days are calling themselves Christians, but
    they only ever talk about "God", never about "Jesus"?


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    AndrewR, Nov 24, 2004
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  18. Donegal Paul

    Lady Nina Guest

    Oh good question.
    Yes. Be amusing (for certain values of) to see their reactions if he
    did reappear.
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 24, 2004
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  19. Lady Nina wrote
    What do you mean "if"? He has come back, I have met him.

    Early 70's it was. I was showing some kiwi burd the tourist delights
    and we ended up at Hyde Park corner for a gander at the free speech and
    we met this bloke Jesus. He had a Kaftan and believed in peace and love
    flowers and wore sandals and everything. He didn't have a belt though,
    someone had nicked it apparently. He was upset about that I remember.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 24, 2004
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  20. Donegal Paul

    Snowleopard Guest

    On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:51:33 -0000, "Cane"
    Yes, obviously, or I wouldn't be overweight and unfit.

    I'm not motivated enough in any area of life, really. Probably a side
    effect of being depressed. Exercise might be good for you but if the
    concept of the gym fills you with despair, you'll never go.
     
    Snowleopard, Nov 24, 2004
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