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  1. Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 13, 2009
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    muddy cat Guest

    muddy cat, Oct 13, 2009
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    frag Guest

    took a blunt brush and painted...
    Name me one software company where the QA department can overrule the sales
    manager(s) and hold back a release because they haven't gotten the number of
    bugs down to a "reasonable" level.

    I'm sick of it.
     
    frag, Oct 13, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    Maybe they could learn something from the Windows 7 Public beta.

    :)
     
    ginge, Oct 13, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Very little software gets properly released, most of it just escapes.
     
    crn, Oct 13, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Mine! A "reasonable" level is zero known bugs, & a release doesn't go
    out until we get there. Sometimes that means all hands on deck for
    stupid amounts of hours if we have to hit a deadline for regulatory
    reasons, but such is life.
     
    Krusty, Oct 13, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    While I agree with most of the sentiments, it's worth pointing out that
    this article reaches the heady levels of accuracy of most of the BBC's
    technology reporting.

    Even a cursory amount of research by the Beeb's 'reporters' would have
    revealed that this is nothing, really, to do with Snow Leopard

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/13/snow_leopard_data_eating_bug_predates_now_leopard/

    Not a nice bug at all, though.

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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    In November 2007. And anyway, back the **** up always.

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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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    Ben Guest

    As you all know, I'm an open Applephile. And all I can say is...


    ....back the **** up before performing a major system upgrade.
     
    Ben, Oct 14, 2009
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  10. After my last HDD crash, I now back up every hour.

    <pats time capsule>
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Oct 14, 2009
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    Jim Guest

    That's over the top, unless you're writing software for aeroplanes or
    weaponry or nuclear power stations.

    If you reckon you can only release your software when it has zero known
    bugs in it then it just means you haven't found them all. No software
    has zero defects, it's just a fact of life.
     
    Jim, Oct 14, 2009
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  12. Which is fine until you Mac goes in for the logic board to be replaced
    (mine was one of the MacBook Pro units with the dodgy Nvidia 8600
    chipset that gets hotter than a hot thing and eventually burns out..)
    and you want to get hold of that data from a non-Mac.

    Hint - it isn't possibe. Not over a network anyway.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Oct 14, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    The operative word is *known*. It's quite possible. IME however, most
    companies opt for a risk / benefit analysis of the known bugs.


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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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    Catman Guest


    Ooh, nasty.

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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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    Jim Guest

    There is a tendency for developers not to report or discuss issues if
    everything is treated as a "stop ship" bug.
     
    Jim, Oct 14, 2009
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    Chris H Guest

    "Those who use backup services including the Mac's own Time Machine can
    restore their lost data"

    There seems to be a lesson there somewhere.
     
    Chris H, Oct 14, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Investment Management, so potentially very, very expensive if we get
    things wrong, especially as we have direct interfaces to various
    banking & trading systems.
    If they're "known", we obviously have found them. Bugs do of course
    appear over time, but they're almost always related to dodgy migrated
    data, or users doing things that nobody could predict.
     
    Krusty, Oct 14, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    Well, we have a testing team who are accountable for finding defects.
    Wouldn't trust the developers.

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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    s/nobody could predict/ were not predicted ;)


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    Catman, Oct 14, 2009
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  20. You can do it by extracting the drive out of the timeport and
    physically mounting it on a linux box as a HPF+ drive and jumping
    through some hoops. But since I should be getting my Mac back in a
    couple of days I couldn't be bothered.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Oct 14, 2009
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