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It *never* ceases to amaze me how fast a Herc stops on touchdown, or how
soon they lift off on takeoff. I always have visions of P2 calling:

"FatAlbertRollingV2RotatePositiveRateofClimbGearUpV1" <massive intake of
breath> "Where's the coffee?"

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No, I've never seen anything take off with that sort of help - I've only
flown from operational RAF fields (Manby, Northolt) and from civvy
fields (Scone, White Waltham, Tibenham, Old Buckenham, Redhill) and from
civil airports, and attended other airfields for Battle of Britain Day
junkets.

The nearest to an assisted takeoff I would have seen had it been
assisted IYSWIM, was at Stornoway Aerodrome, when a largeish jet
airliner packed with Norwegian NATO troops made an emergency landing
there. Every available ambulance and fire appliance raced to the scene.
The plane landed safely, and it turned out that the alarm was down to a
malfunction of one of the fire sensors.

Technically, the runway was too short for it to take off again even
unladen, so the troops went off on a couple of smaller planes, and I
think they stripped everything movable out of their plane and with lots
of wellie and crossed fingers it got away safely.

Just.

At that time I think the scheduled flights were mostly Viscounts. They
lengthened the runway later to accommodate BAC 110s and a three
tail-mounted engined thing about the same size, flown by British Cal -
Tristar?

 

I did say *SLIGHTLY*.

 

Ah, yes. And dead-calm days can't be ordered in advance, I suppose.

 

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Trident? TriStar was somewhat bigger.

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At the battle of Britain Day show at RAF Benson back when the Lightnings
were operational, two flew towards each-other surprisingly slowly at
pretty nearly zero altitude, then climbed, belly-to-belly, and broke the
sound barrier in a vertical climb.

Awesome performance. And a bit thirstier than your average flying machine.

 

Even a dead calm day would have some kind of swell in the sea, and
besides, who could say what the exact conditions might be after a long
heavy bomber flight.

 

There'd be absolutely none at all. Just work out the math, a 35,000lb
aircraft hitting a moving 40,000tonne ship, which one will move?

 

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They both will.

Just differing amounts.

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Just like planets slow down when spacecraft use them for gravity
assists. I'm surprised Greenpeace doesn't protest about that,
actually.

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From: "Andy Hewitt" <>
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: Paging the aircraft anoraks

Have the laws of physics changed since I learned about the conservation
of momentum, then?

 

Andy Hewitt said...

The pilot's bowels would be first I should imagine.

 

IIRC the F111 and the F14 started out as the same plane. Somewhere along
the line, the Navy went one way with the design and the Air Force
another.

 

Which one will lose if the ship is rising up on a heavy sea as the plane
touches the deck?

 

Yes, Fat Albert does it every Blue Angels show.

 

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It would have been the smaller, so Trident it is.

Or was.

I must say, it was a very quiet plane to fly in.

 

I wouldn't have thought a mere swell would have affected the deck's
height above water on a ship that size.

 

You do the maths - the answer is both.

 

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That rather depends on the skill of the pilot. Besides, the amount a
huge ship like an aircraft carrier would rise would be minimal except in
enormous seas, or if it were lying/steaming in line with the swell.

Most waves would tend to cancel their effects if being taken at
right-angles or thereabouts.

Rolling though...

 

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