[QUOTE] There was a bunch of us would get together, never in an organised way and the membership was always in a state of flux, but we'd sit in the back room of a pub and witter and sketch what we wanted, or what we had lying about that we could use (or wanted to find a use for ;-)).[/QUOTE] [big snip] <chortle> I'm trying to imagine how you could even contemplate trying to use an iron bath to cross the River Wear and do you know what? - my imagination isn't good enough!