Paging Porl: Urgently

Champ says...

The Young Ones IIRC. "Made by young adults for young adults" with Ben
Elton as the presenter and a drunk vicar. But I can't remember the
name...

 

hasn't worked this time though, has it?

Pretty much everyone from 13-40 with no sense of style wears baggy
jeans and hoodies around my way.

And what's with teenagers who still dress up as goths?

 

mups says...

Bad form and all that but "Nosing around"

 

Because if they didn't ....?

 

Complete lack of imagination, the cunts.

 

They'd be dull automata following their parents view of the world.

Each generation provides a re-birth, and a challenge to existing
wisdom. The arrogance and energy of youth is the engine for change.

 

its equivalent to people in the 70s going around dressed like
teddy-boys.

Really, the current generation of "young adults" appear to have lost
the plot.

 

I was under the impression that one could form an opinion without duress
these days, without the need to have annoying ringtones. It's almost as if
you've confused the natural process of self-identification (from which
hopefully one progresses to some degree of self-awareness) with the
siphoning of teenagers' - and their parents' -cash through crapola like
merchandising, music and labels, etc. One is a parasite on the other. They
are not both a natural manifestation of the awakening of youth.

Maybe the dull automata are just as likely to be found among those railing
against their parents because everyone else rails against theirs.

Just in case you're not being award-winningly ironic can you give some
examples of this phenomenon in action?

 

Or maybe have followed the plot (of the media that they're all fed) a
little too well.

 

Understandable, really. Music is now going round and round in circles in a
feeding frenzy. We seem to have hit a ceiling of genres and new bands are
just variations on themes, regardless or how good they may or may not be. I
guess there's only so much you can do with the western scales.

If you want to stand out and be noticed why not pick the most ridiculous and
risible style of all?

 

Jazz?

 

Well, I agree that merchandising off-the-shelf rebellion is a
parasite, but it's still a symptom of the awakening of youth.

Hey, I'm just riffing this stuff in real time, man!

 

I think you're right, though I was talking about fashion, not music.

heavy metal?

 

I don't think "symptom" is the correct word here, unless a flea on a pig's
arse is a symptom of the pig. There is a period of someone's life when they
start to first recognise their individuality, realise they actually have to
be responsible for something at some point and then progress to attempting
to decide their path through life. The fact that this confusion gets
manipulated by the media and almost everyone else with a vested interest
doesn't delineate this, or rather it almost does, but it shouldn't. Were
punks rebelling against anything? Or were they simply buying into what they
were told to? Personally, when I listen to Johnny Rotten talking, I think he
sounds like a fucking tit. What did they they change? Nothing. A few decent
bands came out of the "movement", nothing else. No great philosophical or
sociological milestones were reached. But a lot of people made a lot money.

Pff!

 

" Nozin' Aroun' ".

"Yeah, that's right, N.O.Z. Z for 'ZAP' "

etc, etc.

 

goths call them spookykids

 

There are still goths?

 

Champ wrote

If I can use the example stated earlier of the Teds.

Assuming it is still there, if you go down the Kursaal Bar of a Friday
night you will see a whole bunch of genuine Teds and their Chicks a
bopping and a jiving away like there was no yesterday. Pensioners the
lot of them. A frightening sight of behold it is.

 

And is that a good thing or a bad thing, gaylord?

 

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