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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David Thomas, Jul 25, 2004.

  1. David Thomas

    darsy Guest

    this is a Spyball. Who knows?
     
    darsy, Jul 27, 2004
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  2. David Thomas

    darsy Guest

    didn't work.
    didn't work.

    Which button - the normal one or the recessed one?

    When the ignition is turned on, the LED flashes about 5hz, but no
    amount of pressing of the buttons on the fob gets the indicators to
    flash, and trying the starter just gets a click.

    And yes, the kill switch is set to "run".
     
    darsy, Jul 27, 2004
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  3. David Thomas

    Verdigris Guest

    But since the two are directly related, it's a bit irrelevent. Personally,
    I thought that the amount of torque generated was almost entirely
    dependent on the engine capacity. More cyclinders just lets you do it at
    higher revs, so more power.

    From my own experience, I'd say that fewer, bigger cylinders give you more
    power at low revs than more, smaller cylinders. But really, it's a bit
    irrelevent. What are gear boxes for, after all?
     
    Verdigris, Jul 27, 2004
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  4. David Thomas

    Verdigris Guest

    Turbine engines do too, I believe. (I recall somebody saying just that
    about that bike with the small turbine engine from a helicopter.)
     
    Verdigris, Jul 27, 2004
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  5. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    Not if you're following.
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
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  6. David Thomas

    darsy Guest

    " "

    I'm not nearly as bad on the 7R - you free for a ride this weekend?
     
    darsy, Jul 28, 2004
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  7. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    That's a new 'Bike'. My definition of an old 'Bike' has Mark Williams
    reviewing the latest Jethro Tull album.

    ....and adverts for "Dunstall Decibels" - send 10p in stamps for a
    catalogue.
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
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  8. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    I never understood why people say the Guzzi is torquey bike - I have to
    rev the nuts off it to get it to do anything.

    I'm not helping here am I?
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
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  9. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    Working - unfortunately.
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
    #89
  10. David Thomas

    darsy Guest

    oh well.
     
    darsy, Jul 28, 2004
    #90
  11. David Thomas

    Harvey Guest

    Well... turbine engines give you the maximum torque at 'stall' i.e.
    when the stator (the bit that connects to the drive wheels) isn't
    moving in the airflow generated by the compressor part of the turbine.

    Turboshaft engines like those used for helicopters will have two
    separate 'fans' inside - one at the front, which sucks air into the
    engine to burn (the compressor) and one at the back, which is driven
    by the airflow and is connected to the gearbox/drive wheels by a shaft
    (the rotor/stator.) In a turbofan engine as found on a more typical
    airplane, those units are permanently connected.

    Anyway, the upshot of that is that the actual amount of torque
    generated is proportional to the difference in revolution speed of the
    compressor and the stator. This makes turbine engines a pig to use in
    cars and bikes, etc, because the only way to get any grunt off the
    starting line is to hold the rear wheel brake on (locking up the
    stator,) pin the throttle wide open, wait for the engine to spool up
    and let the brake off when the engine is at full speed. Turbine
    engines store a lot more energy than the equivalent flywheel in a
    piston engine, so from idle (a leisurely 18krpm) they'll take about
    5-10 seconds to come up to full power (50krpm, ish.) Then, if you
    overcook it and the back wheel breaks loose, letting the throttle off
    won't actually do anything for a second or two, because you've got all
    that energy stored in the spinning compressor...
     
    Harvey, Jul 28, 2004
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  12. David Thomas

    serf Guest

    serf, Jul 28, 2004
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  13. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
    #93
  14. David Thomas

    serf Guest

    I did consider this, and came to the completely uninformed conclusion
    that the Oxford product was more likely to be functional after 3 days
    on a bike.

    I saw little point in acquiring any actual objective data, as I had
    already decided what I was going to do, and simply needed an
    opinionated stance unsullied by rational rigor to provide the necessary
    self-justification.

    Perhaps one of your MZs would make a suitable test-bed for the
    scientific evaluation of various bicycular chronometers?

    HTH
     
    serf, Jul 28, 2004
    #94
  15. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    Cheap watches aren't waterproof. Bike clocks are, at least mine is.
    Oxford clocks look a bit pikey and are pricey, I have a HG one that cost
    a fiver with the casing sprayed matt black.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 28, 2004
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  16. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    Alright, get the £2.99 one - waterproof to 10m.
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
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  17. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    Still pikey looking.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 28, 2004
    #97
  18. David Thomas

    sweller Guest

    Oh and something costing £9.99 with the word 'Oxford' on isn't?

    If you need to know the time that fucking badly buy a BMW.
     
    sweller, Jul 28, 2004
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  19. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    I didn't buy the Oxford one, I bought the 5 quid Gericke one because the
    readout is bigger and it was half the price. I couldn't read the Oxford
    one that came with a bike I bought when on the move. It broke fairly
    quickly too. I don't need to know the time when I'm on my bike now, but
    when I was commuting 50 miles to work a clock came in handy.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 28, 2004
    #99
  20. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    That's not much good if you want to go past the corner shop.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 28, 2004
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