Paging JP

B-I-L has just got himself snapped at 36 in a 30 (in a Porsche, oh the
shame of it).

He's suggesting an attempted "defence" that he had accidentally set the
speedo to KMH, and couldn't figure out how to reset it, so was having to
judge his speed by eye (not knowing how many K's 30M's is). "It is now
reset, your honour".

I'm trying to tell him he's a fucking idiot, pay the 60 quid and take it
like a man, he's convinced he's Perry Mason.

I *think* he might listen to an authoritative voice. Maybe. He's a
****[1], right?

[1] in other senses than "a Porsche-driving ****", obviously.

 

Nigel Eaton was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

You're going about this the wrong way. Let him plead, watch him being
banned and borrow his car until he gets his license back.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Timo Geusch

Heh. I don't think even *he's* going to be able to get a ban for 36. It
wasn't in Wales.

 

B-I-L has just got himself snapped at 36 in a 30 (in a Porsche, oh the

Unfortunately, this isn't a defence that will stand up along with the "my
speedo's not working" one. It will be taken that a competent driver(may not
apply to this case)can accurately judge his speed. Bit crap that the camera
is set that low, all of ours are set at 40.

Gary

ST1300P in a tasteful blue and yellow colour scheme

 

Yebbut, by the time the NIP arrives, stating 360 mph ...

 

in message

Not experienced in such matters, but my attitude if I was a beak would be
"So he admits he was breaking the law, and I'm not interested in his excuses
as it's his responsibility to ensure that the bike is working properly
before it goes on the black stuff, Right I wonder what the maximum penalty
is I can give this plonker"


--
Martin -Yamaha XVS650A (Im a Norfolk boy ... nearest thing I could afford
to a tractor)

Norfolk n' good

www.rockdoctors.org.uk

 

Seeing as he doesn't want to take it like a man, tell him to get his
wife to fill in the NIP and not sign it. Doing 36 in 30 he probably
shouldn't hear anymore about it apart from a 'bluff and bluster' letter
which he should ignore. He'll have much more chance getting off than his
original thinking.

Just read that he received the NIP, does he still have the enevelope and
was it posted first class (apparently NIPs have to be sent first class).

 

Erik The Bee said....

This is absolute bollocks. If you don't know, then don't fucking post.
We've been right through the ins and outs of law pertaining to NIPs so
many times in this ng, and your advice is total crap.

Trust me on this, I tried to fight the law, and the law one to the tune
of a fine 80 quid larger than the first offer made on the NIP.

--
Lozzo
ZZR1100D, GPZ500S, CB250RS x3
BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, two#49, MIB#22, TCP#7, BONY#9,
ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, KoBV#3.
Url for ukrm newbies : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
http://www.glfuk.com/ for MJK Leathers in the UK.

 

Since when did knowing anything not pertaining to bikes preclude people
from posting to UKRM.

Maybe you should have a look at sites which are more informed
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/unsigned.html
http://www.pepipoo.com/

Having an attitude of a badger chasing a bear I'm not surprised that the
law one(sic). Have a scan through these

Did you base your defence on having the NIP sent second class?

 

Nigel Eaton wrote

Really the only way to deal with this sort of plonker is to give him all
the encouragement you can and hope that the Beak didn't get his oats the
night before.

 

Tell him to demand a trial by jury. Then demand that all poor people be
removed from said jury - as they obviously aren't his peers.

 

This is More crap.

I am £60 lighter and three points heavier for 36mph in a 30.

I also have a speedo in kph, but that has **** all to do with it.

 

Tell him to take the ticket option - there is *no* way this defence
will work - although he could invite an additional charge of failing
to maintain speedometer!!
Very low speed though - where was it?

 

Erik The Bee said....

When it comes to matters regarding traffic law, I don't listen to
barrack room lawyers on the net anymore, 99% of them are full of shit. I
trust only the advice of our resident janitor and those in the legal
profession.

Check it out for yourself at :

http://tinyurl.com/vdd9

It's a post I made after attending court to fight a speeding charge,
where a lawyer explained the ins and outs of NIP law to me

--
Lozzo
ZZR1100D, GPZ500S, CB250RS x3
BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, two#49, MIB#22, TCP#7, BONY#9,
ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, KoBV#3.
Url for ukrm newbies : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
http://www.glfuk.com/ for MJK Leathers in the UK.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, JP

Heh. That'd make his day. I'll tell him, thanks.

Down your way, I think. Camberley, IIRC.

 

There arent any fixed cameras in Camberley - one of the council
"safety vans"?

 

Still zero chance though

Wrong

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, JP

Hmm... Not sure, I'll ask him.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, JP

Apparently yes. And the jammy ****'s had a "naughty boy, don't do it
again" letter this morning. :^)

 

No comment :}

I think you're wrong on this JP.


The Road Traffic Offenders Act (1998)

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880053_en_4.htm#mdiv85

was updated by

The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940033_en_25.htm

on the subject of serving NIP for fixed penalty fines. Sub section c has
had the first class post added.


/QUOTE
(3) In section 1 of the [1988 c. 53.] Road Traffic Offenders Act
1988 (which requires warning of prosecution for certain offences to be
given), after subsection (1), there shall be inserted the following
subsection—
"(1A) A notice required by this section to be served on any person
may be served on that person—

(a) by delivering it to him;

(b) by addressing it to him and leaving it at his last known
address; or

(c) by sending it by registered post, recorded delivery service
or first class post addressed to him at his last known address.

/ENDQUOTE

I've searched around to see if this has changed, but can't find anything
else. (Although my searching skills aren't that great). Can you let me
now if it has been updated?