Paging Grimly, or anybody else who knows/cares (about cars)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by AndrewR, May 12, 2004.

  1. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "AndrewR"
    MOT failure points on Scims are often the chassis outriggers
    (repairable) or the chassis inner rail above the rear axle (terminal,
    unless you want to get into a body-off rebuild). Front suspension
    components sometimes lead to a MOT failure too, but all the parts are
    readily available and aren't really all that awkward to replace, being
    basically a slightly modified Triumph TR3(?) design - relatively cheap,
    too. Most cars will have had the suspension rebuilt by this time.

    Basically, when looking over a Scim... if it doesn't smoke, the chassis
    checks out ok and the front suspension isn't actually falling off, it's
    probably worth taking a chance on.


    Many of them have been owned by people who have spent loads on them over
    the years and then just had enough, for whatever reason [1]. I'm not
    wearing my rose-tinted specs, so I'll say this; it could be a total
    money pit - if you really really want to bring a Scimitar up the to
    state it left the factory in, you could easily spend thousands on it,
    but (and here's the good news) you don't have to, other people have
    already done it for you.


    Another factor in the previous owner syndrome is that many of the POs
    weren't all that mechanically minded - they may have loved the car but
    paid to have work done; of course this adds one helluvalot to the
    running costs, which could be a factor in them gettting rid of it. If
    you do your own maint, obviously the cost of keeping a Scim on the road
    is drastically reduced. And doing your own maint on a Scim is curiously
    rewarding, much more so than many other cars.



    [1] It's not uncommon to find a car that has a stainless exhaust system,
    stainless fuel tank, rebuilt front suspension, new shocks, solid
    chassis, fresh paint, etc, etc, and only being sold for a few hundred
    quid (ie, mine, and no, you're not having it). Most of these cars don't
    do many miles per year and were often owned by older geezers who
    lavished attention on them over the period of ownership. That's the car
    to buy.



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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 12, 2004
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  2. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember (SteveH)
    saying something like:
    Wot him say.

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 12, 2004
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    SteveH Guest

    Just to clarify that.... I suppose I should have included
    non-Supercharged in that, too.
     
    SteveH, May 12, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Grimly Curmudgeon says...
    Before turbos became commonplace on cars, normally aspirated meant non-
    injection.
     
    Lozzo, May 12, 2004
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  5. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    One of the old street sleepers... Renault 10 Gordini.

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    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 12, 2004
    #25
  6. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    " "

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    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2004
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  7. AndrewR

    SteveH Guest

    Eh? - I've _never_ heard of that before.

    What the hell has EFI got to do with the way an engine sucks in the air
    (ie. aspiration)? - given that injection systems of the time were little
    more than an electro-mechanical development of the carburettor. FI has
    absolutely nothing to do with natural/normal aspiration. An injected
    non-turbo/ supercharged engine has, and always will be known as
    normally/naturally aspirated.
     
    SteveH, May 13, 2004
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    MattG Guest

    SteveH says...
    I have, but I know little about mechanicals, so I'll say no more.
     
    MattG, May 13, 2004
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  9. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    I've never heard it used in that sense. Aspiration is related to the
    breathing of the engine, not the fuelling.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

    In
    At this point, I suppose I'd better put my "Resident Ford Capri Nutter" hat
    on.

    The "Cologne" 2.8 engine (and the 2.3) were offered in America after about
    1972, some Mk1 Capris had it, and there were a whole load of 2.8 carb
    Mk2/3's about, just not RHD, oh, and the 2.8i was developed my SVE. First
    car to be developed by them, IIRC.

    Oh, and if you want a Capri, buy one a.s.a.p. The prices are going silly.
    RS2000 Escorts have gone that way, Capris are playing catch up. Even my 2.0
    Laser is worth about £14-1500.
     
    Pete M, May 13, 2004
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    3 litre Capri. Plenty of engines around, as you need to replace them
    periodically.
     
    Colin Irvine, May 13, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

    In
    Mk2 Series 1 will be the one with the square headlamps and the Mk2 Series 2
    will be the one with the round headlamps then?

    What's the Series 3 look like? Mine's an '87 and everything is
    interchangeable with the bits on a 78 "S2"...
     
    Pete M, May 13, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    Yes, so I see.

    <Panic>

    Quick. Must find 2.8i

    Arg!


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    AndrewR, May 13, 2004
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    Lady Nina Guest

    Estranged husband has put one back from complete rust bucket into
    looking brand new enough to be in magazines and at shows condition.
    But he's got more money than sense. HTH.

    <small voice> looks nice mind, I've always had a soft spot for X19s.
     
    Lady Nina, May 13, 2004
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    Oldbloke Guest

    There's one rotting in a shed near my in-laws, been there for years.

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    Oldbloke, May 13, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Lady Nina says...
    My elder sister had an S regd 1978 1300cc X1/9 that was three years old
    when she bought it. It was a rusting unreliable shed even after such a
    short space of time. In the time she owned it she became an expert in
    Fiat vehicle 'electrics'[1]. She sold it to buy a VW Polo.

    [1] She was considering re-wiring the whole car with bits of damp
    string, she reckoned that would have been an improvement on Fiat's
    efforts.
     
    Lozzo, May 13, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    Something like this looks nice
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....&category=29755&sspagename=STRK:MEBWA:IT&rd=1
    depending on how close to the buy it now price the reserve is.

    TBH, once it gets up towards a grand I'd far rather go with
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9835&item=2478215015&rd=1
    this sort of thing, as being a better car for the money (i.e just as fast,
    but with infinitely better handling, a better image and specification. Only
    let down by the hideous price of Audi spares).

    Hypothetically I could spend a grand on a car this month. Hmmmm.

    Does anybody know if "Bought a shite old car" is reasonable grounds for
    divorce?

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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, May 13, 2004
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    flashgorman Guest

    flashgorman, May 13, 2004
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    Dave A Guest

    I was under the impression that the outriggers were only an MOT failure if
    they were there but crap, whereas if you take them out altogether you can't
    get done for them. Could be bollocks though.
    Check for signs of damp inside as well, unless it's going to be in a garage
    all the time leaky interiors can be a real pain. I spent many winters
    lifting blocks of ice out of the passenger footwell........
    Did you see that Scim made number 9 out of the top 100 classic cars in
    Practical Classics this month? Bit of a surprise that.
     
    Dave A, May 13, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    My Mk II Escort with the concertina sunroof was like that as well.

    When I first got it the carpets were soaked through, so I took them out,
    cleaned them and left them to dry in the garage.

    A few days later there was a really cold morning and I had a rather
    interesting start to the day when I drove off and then realised there was a
    huge patch of ice under the pedals.


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    AndrewR, May 13, 2004
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