Paging darsy & hard sci-fi buffs

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  1. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Given that I loved Accelerando, and much preferred Iron Sunrise over
    Singularity Sky, where do the other Stross books fit in, IYHO?

    I'm almost done with the "Collapsium qualrology" (first one was my fave so
    far), and am saving the last 2 John Wright books for xmas.

    Any other recommendations?
     
    Switters, Dec 10, 2007
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  2. Switters

    darsy Guest

    I haven't read any of his "Family Trade" fantasy novels - no interest
    in them. The two "Laundry" books - "Atrocity Archives" and "Jennifer
    Morgue" are good - funny spoof lovecraft spy yarns, but not even close
    to being hard SF. "Glasshouse" is of a similar feel to "Accelerando",
    but to me it felt like he was just cracking one out, rather than
    having taken a bit of time over it. "Halting State" looks interesting,
    but I've not read it yet. The short story collection "Toast" is a very
    mixed bag.
    don't expect any more after that - one of the biggest reading-related
    disapointments I had in years was when I found he'd become a Christian
    and started writing allegorical fantasy with no intention of doing
    more SF.
    Tony Ballantyne's: "Recursion"/"Capacity"/"Divergence" trilogy.
    Ian MacDonald: "River of Gods" and "Brazyl"
    Alastair Reynolds: "Pushing Ice"
    Chris Moriarty: "Spin State"/"Spin Control"
    Robert A. Metzger : "Picoverse"
    Adam Roberts: "Gradisil"

    You might like Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center" series, though
    that's a mix of hard SF and space opera.

    HTH.
     
    darsy, Dec 10, 2007
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  3. Not read yet - added to list..
    His writing style drives me up the wall. I started reading River of
    Gods and managed to get about 1/2 of the way through before giving up.
    Not read that one - all his others are excellent.
    Not read yet - added to list..
    Didn't like it. Got very very bored.. No real characterisation at all.
    And precious little hard science - it reminds me of some of the 50's
    pulp sci-fi.
    They are good - all apart from the last one which all gets a bit
    metaphysical.

    Greg Egan "Distress" (which I've just finished) is quite good (but
    again gets a bit metaphysical at the end - but then most of his books
    do..)

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Dec 10, 2007
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  4. Switters

    darsy Guest

    don't try "Brazyl" then - the style (in particular the use of local
    cultural words and images that aren't explicitly explained) is even
    more pronounced.
    Heh - I meant to cut'n'paste "On", not "Gradisil", though I think
    you're wrong - Robert's work can be very subtle - not much seems to be
    going on unless you catch some of the little hints he's left around
    that not everything is as it seems. But you're right in one respect,
    "Gradisil" isn't /hard/ SF. "On" is.
    well, yes.
    I liked all his stuff up until "Schild's Ladder" which was very
    flawed. He doesn't seem to have written anything after.

    Some more:

    Stephen Baxter's "Destiny's Children" series (and the greater "Xeelee
    Sequence" novels too)
    Robert Reed : "Marrow" (the sequel to this: "The Well of Stars" isn't
    so good, but his other novel "Down the Bright Way" is good)
    Ken McLeod: "Learning the World" (ISTR you're not a McLeod fan)
     
    darsy, Dec 10, 2007
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  5. Ah - well (as everyone here can attest) I don't do subtle terribly
    well. Subtle needs to be wearing flashing red LEDs for me to notice it.
    I'll give it a try.
    I've not read that one.
    I've yet to read a bad book by Steven Baxter.
    I am.

    I've also been reading various MilScifi recently (Hammers Slammers et.
    al) of varying quality - most of it trades quality for booms - the
    bigger the better. Drake is reasonably good though as is Pournelle.
    The early Honor Harrington books (David Weber) were an enjoyable
    space opera/milsci read but the later ones have gone all American[1].

    And I'm reading a lot of Warhammer (40K and Fantasy) novels at the
    moment - again of mixed quality. The Ciaphas Cain series are very
    enjoyable as are the Ravenor series but some of them are definately
    written just to keep the franchise ticking over..

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Dec 10, 2007
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  6. Garn.

    [1] As in ' more concerned with how the characters feel about it all
    rather than blowing up the baddies in glorious technicolour'.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Dec 10, 2007
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  7. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Are you referring to Wright or McCarthy?

    And:
    I get Amazon pushing McLeod in their recommendations, but a) he gets very
    mixed reviews and b) Amazon recommendations are increasingly useless. So,
    so far, I've not ventured there. Must add him to me woman's "look out for
    in charity shops" list.
     
    Switters, Dec 10, 2007
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  8. Switters

    darsy Guest

    Wright[1]. McCarthy's actually formed a company and filed patents with
    a view to try and get wellstone actually made (his non fiction book
    "Hacking Matter" covers what's been done so far in this field).
    heh.

    [1] I find it a struggle to reconcile the themes in The Golden Age
    with this nonsense:
    http://johncwright.livejournal.com/59241.html
     
    darsy, Dec 10, 2007
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    steve auvache, Dec 10, 2007
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  10. Switters

    darsy Guest

    Read the first one, thought it was utter bilge.

    There are very few American SF writers that are capable of writing
    anything other than single layered pap.
     
    darsy, Dec 10, 2007
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  11. Switters

    Timo Geusch Guest

    AOL - I made the mistake of buying the first one as well and have been
    given the rest of his books a wide berth.
    You pay peanuts...
     
    Timo Geusch, Dec 10, 2007
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  12. Switters

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    I've read a couple of his Star Wars novels and they were utter carp.
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Dec 10, 2007
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  13. Switters

    ogden Guest

    If you like stuff like that, I have a TV adaptation of Z For Zachariah
    that's pretty fucking bleak.
     
    ogden, Dec 10, 2007
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  14. Switters

    Ben Guest

    I'm half-way through the series. It's pretty formulaic but reasonably
    well written and doesn't tax your brain too much. Standard galactic
    space-opera really.
     
    Ben, Dec 10, 2007
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  15. Switters

    Dr Zoidberg Guest


    Hehehe :0)
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Dec 10, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066154/

    IIRC, in the book, the main protagonist kisses two dead guys.
     
    platypus, Dec 10, 2007
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  17. Switters

    platypus Guest

    It could be, if you adapted it as a Torchwood episode.
     
    platypus, Dec 10, 2007
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  18. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Good idea... no point anyone else making the money from it. He should hurry
    up and move onto the fax plates though.
    Uh, blimey.
     
    Switters, Dec 11, 2007
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  19. Switters

    Switters Guest

    I've enjoyed the Collapsium books, but for me, the first one was the best
    (I've not read the 4th yet though). The second one being my least
    favourite.
    Sounds like I should love it.
     
    Switters, Dec 11, 2007
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  20. Switters

    darsy Guest

    I disagree, but hey.
    I thought Perdido Street Station was "OK" at best. There are lots of
    similar, but much better writers.
     
    darsy, Dec 11, 2007
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