paging Bonwick and Ogden

Ah, crap

 

Yes, the market is picking up, although I'm still noticing some agents
posting rather amusing rates.

Trouble is that a lot of the candidates that seem to be coming through
are of course the most brilliant IT people that ever walked the earth,
which is why they were let go by their previous places.

 

Given by the number of <expletive deleted to save myself from the libel
lawyers> people I've interviewed for a position that my current client
has open, you're in a minority .

 

ah well, been expecting it for months.

tanks for the txt.

 

tiger?

--


Nige,

BMW K1200S (for sale)
Range Rover Vogue
Suzuki GSX-R600 Racebike (for sale)
Honda ST1100 Pan European

 

We should start a club.

 

you even post to usenet in oirish. blimey.

 

I need to invent my own XML irony format.

 

<fe/>?

 

<FeO>

It's raining here

 

<Daylight come & me wanna go home>

 

You would say that, wouldn't you?!

 

I'm sure IBM will help - they have lots of Big irony..

Phil

 

Why, I thank you.

If we're talking voluntary redundancy, I'd agree with you - the ones
that are most likely to take that are those who are best connected and
usually highly qualified and skilled. Not surprising given that those
at the people most likely to find another job.

I'm talking more about the "oi you, out the door" type redundancy.

While agree that this is doing stuff by the book, any sane company[1]
will try and do their utmost to keep their top IT staff, at least from
a development perspective. The discrepancy in productivity between
indiviuals at either end of the scale is well documents to be at least
an order of magnitude so it would be somewhat suicidal to get rid of
their top performers. Not that I haven't seen this before...

[1] Yeah, yeah I know...

 

*DING* When I was made redundant a few years ago, it was a choice
between me & the one other senior developer. He got to stay purely
because he lived just down the road from our largest client, & spent a
day or two a week in their offices doing bespoke stuff. I live 150
miles away, so it wouldn't have been practical for me to take that over
if he went.

They took me back on 7 months later as EKS (on a subsitence rate) when
things picked up a bit, then made me permie head of development, so
t'other guy now works for me. It's a funny old world.

 

technically, it isn't even redundancy - they're moving my job to
France, but not offering me the chance to move with it.

I need to look into whether this is strictly legal within UK
employment law. Hey, WUN, ask your missus...

 

That certainly doesn't help, agreed. Plus of course a lot of IT career
progression seems to be attainable only by moving employers so people
are let go instead of having the team's carcass picked over by other
teams first.

Plus there's the usual "HR says we can't keep contractors longer than
x" that seems to be especially virulent at the moment.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, darsy

Mrs WUN says that if the role is not changing they should offer you the
opportunity to move, but don't have to pay relocation costs,

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
go and talk to the Catholics.

 

AIUI it's not strictly legal if it's the same job & they'll be taking
on/moving someone to fill it in France. You can only make posts
redundant, not people, & your post isn't being made redundant if
they're moving it in its current form. Of course they'll just say it's
different enough to not be the same post.

 

Maybe it would require fluent French.