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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Timo Geusch, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Ben Guest

    Why?
     
    Ben, Jan 25, 2004
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  2. wrote

    I choose to ignore that. But now you mention it I shall add it to me
    list off things to get semantically inclined about as yoofs are *much*
    more likely to pay attention if it was anything but a reference to plod.

    Although on reflection I might not as which foot you put down first,
    last or not at all, is, imho, really a matter of personal preference and
    anything comfortable that makes you a more competent rider is a fucking
    sight better than something which is just "wrong".

    Did I mention that the IAM are cunts?
     
    steve auvache, Jan 25, 2004
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  3. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    JP was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    North London, but anywhere in the Southeast would be fine.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 25, 2004
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  4. Timo Geusch

    BRC Guest

    We do indeed, not me tho I'm afraid - not enough time. But it's well worth
    it and if you manage to get a good group, the social side is pretty good.

    Trouble is- finding a decent IAM group. Ours (Harrogate Advanced) is
    fantastic - the observers are som eof the best riders I know and I learnt a
    lot from them. We have rider skills days even when we've passed that move
    onto the more fun aspects of motorcycling too, all legal and above board you
    understand of course.

    I'd say it's well worth it, but thats just mho - but if you can't find a
    decent IAM group locally, try RoSPA.

    HTH, HAND etc :eek:)
     
    BRC, Jan 25, 2004
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  5. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    Umm... maybe not. If I think I'll sit for more than 10 or so seconds at
    the light I'll shift into neutral.
    The clutch, eventually probably not by much 'cos it's barely in contact
    but the cable would be under stress and the springs would be compressed.
    Can't be good. Or if hydraulic then replace cable with 'clutch line'
    I try to go down through the gears as I decelerate.
     
    deadmail, Jan 25, 2004
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  6. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    Wear and tear. See other post.
     
    deadmail, Jan 25, 2004
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  7. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    He's a shortarse?
     
    deadmail, Jan 25, 2004
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  8. If you spend a lot of cumulative time sitting at traffic lights with the
    clutch pulled in, then yes, the clutch release bearing will wear out.
    There's also a greater risk of the clutch cable snapping when it's least
    convenient.

    Personally I've always put right foot down, with left foot on peg ready
    to snick into gear and left hand on top of clutch lever for same reason.
    Throttle and brake simultaneous action is easy, once you do it for a
    little while.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 25, 2004
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  9. Timo Geusch

    MattG Guest

    Yep.
     
    MattG, Jan 25, 2004
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  10. Timo Geusch

    Lozzo Guest

    Ben said...
    When you've got legs as short as mine, you put down whatever foot will
    touch the deck
     
    Lozzo, Jan 25, 2004
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  11. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    There's probably that too. I guess the real answer to "why?" is
    "because that's the way I do it"
     
    deadmail, Jan 25, 2004
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  12. Besides, when old farts like you and I took the test, we weren't taught
    any of that crap anyway.

    It was: "One down, four up, that's the clutch, that's the brake, and
    remember the tyres are lethal in the wet...."
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 26, 2004
    #52
  13. If it's the rear end shunt you are worried about do not have either hand
    holding on to anything tight.

    If you have one hand on the front brake you will pull the bars on the
    right and the bike will go down. Be in gear with the clutch in and you
    will pull the bars on the left and the bike will go down. In both cases
    the bike most likely will have trapped a leg while the car that hit you
    rolls over you.

    Any thing more than a minor shunt up the rear will have you off. The
    rear brake applied may stop you in this case. In all other cases ie 95%
    and assuming you are on level ground, you need both feet on the ground
    with light grip in the bars on both sides. This is the only way to
    recover from a higher than 'minor' shunt. Anything more than his and you
    have 'lost' the bike but with both feet on the ground your rotation
    around the hips as you somersault onto the bonnet of the car that ran
    into you will be uniform. A single foot on the ground will impart a
    rotational force and increase the likelihood of going under rather than
    over the car .
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #53
  14. In message
    "One down AND FOUR up" I don't know! Young whipper-snappers of today
    with all these gears. Bet they don't know what gear they're in half the
    time.......................
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #54
  15. Stopping on a 20% (1 in 5 to the old folk) up hill on gravel is
    interesting. You either stop in first or learn to do the 'get it in gear
    shuffle' without taking your foot off of the foot brake and hand off of
    the hand brake.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #55
  16. It's the clutch release bearing that wears out.
    It's probably designed with a 5% use compared to the rest of the bike's
    engine.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #56
  17. Makes a lot of sense even on a non sports bike.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #57
  18. Timo Geusch

    mups Guest

    Eee them w'days when all y'ad were bottom, middle an'top eh granddad...
     
    mups, Jan 26, 2004
    #58
  19. Oh aye lad and kids only rode bikes up to 1000 cc and men rode the
    bigger ones :)
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 26, 2004
    #59
  20. Are there any diagrams to accompany this??
     
    Insanely Sensible, Jan 26, 2004
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