Paging (advanced) instructors

Oh, and Gloucestershire are quite happy for people from other counties
to attend their course. The course predates Bikesafe and was featured in
some magazines so they've even had foreigners incorporate it into a
holiday in the Cotswolds.

 

Which has always struck me as counter-intuitive and not the way I've
ever done it. I dare say most people on here (and in the world as a
whole) do it the other way.

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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote

As Lozzo will attest, when you are a short arse, which foot goes down
depends a lot on the camber of the road.

'Course it goes without saying that stopping is a stupid and dangerous
thing to do in the first place.

 

i got an email about the Herts police doing one of these in the near
future. if you're interested then give me a shout and i'll have a look
and see if i still have it.

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which is the opposite to what my IAM instructor told me. he said that
was ok for newbies but you are betting being able to put straight into
gear without foot hopping.

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I generally put both feet down to stretch my legs when I stop, I'd like
to think it would disgust IAM instructors.

 

That's also what Dave Corden/Geoff teach. Right foot down, so that left is
ready for slotting into gear etc.. If you want to keep the brake on, use
the front.

 

Well, there you go. **** me, the IAM agrees with me.

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Not the IAM group group that I went to. They wanted you to go:

Right foot down
Find neutral
Left foot down
Right foot up and cover rear brake.

Then reverse when the lights change. They referred to it as "The Hendon
Shuffle".

They also told me "We obey *absolutely* 30, 40, and 50 mph limits. In 60 and
70 zones, we might go as high as 65 and 75 mph." I stayed long enough to
learn some stuff about observations (in which I was very lacking) and on the
second session was told I should put in for the test. Then I wrote off the
bike.

 

MattG wrote

<supercilious to the max>
How peculiar. For years they have been teaching the above to Essex
newbies doing their CBT and calling it the Traffic Light Shuffle.

Amazing to think that what Essex thinks is appropriate for new riders
Hendon is convinced applies only to those who wish to be considered as
advanced. Hmmm.
</sttm>

 

I can remember a case where a local IAM god was attempting to pick
faults with a senior police driving instructor. Of course he didn't know
his true identity. The point was the IAM god had to find faults, he
considered himself a failure if he couldn't.

That's my boy. True IAM material...

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Whereabouts are you Timo??

 

Here its left foot down because then you can hold the bike on the
brake using your foot leaving your right hand able to operate the
throttle rather than the brake.

 

And you can't operate the brake and throttle simultaneously?

Not saying that you should, but as a reason for putting down the left, it
seems a bit crap. Personally I put down whichever foot I choose at the time,
never both, obviously.

 

It does work. I was rear-ended on the 750 and having the rear brake
on stopped me from being shunted out into a roundabout. Didn't drop
the bike either. I don't do it as a matter of religion though, just
what's more comfortable for where I've stopped.

 

I can, but I was taught that procedure when I learnt and I guess it
does make a certain amount of sense. It only gets silly when you have
to do the shuffling of feet which I why I pull up in the right gear to
pull away.

 

Don't do it. Your bike will break.

 

Heaven's I always select neutral at traffic lights, I'd not want to sit
with a clutch disengaged any longer than necessary.

 

Not sure if you've missed this, but ISTR it's called "The Hendon
Shuffle" because of the police college in Hendon; assume they train bike
cops there.

 

Heh, somehow I doubt you're being entirely accurate.

Anyway, people do that, do they? Must be in neutral, can't stay in gear, cos
it'll wear out summat. What's going to wear out? The clutch? I suppose it
would wear it, would it wear much?

Not something I've bothered with, tbh. Rather than making sure I stop in the
right gear, I stop in whatever gear happens to be handy at the time, then
change into first.