Moi? No, I don't remember such a thing. Possibly we were thinking in French? [QUOTE] Christ, that's even worse!. The 'y' sound is only when the 'g' is joined with an 'l' as in 'biglieto' (ticket). And even then I think it's only with 'gli' or 'gle'. [/QUOTE] Well I did. Exactly the same rule for 'c' as well. Which is why I'm doubting your story, unless as I suggest we were not talking about Italian, but French.