Paging Ace/Cab/ukrm French contingent

You ever tried to register a UK bike over here?

A non-standard one?

How would you rate my chances of getting the NS5 registered (all the docs
and the frame plate still say 387cc - it's only the paint job that gives the
game away and I can soon lob some old 400 panels on for the CT thingy.)?

Or should I ship it back to the UK for an MoT and bring it back on the UK
plate - being a dopey twat I forgot to get it MoT'd before I brought it
across and that has now expired, see....

TIA

Dave

 

I've not done this before. But I'd have a word with dog if I were you.
He's done this and had a helluva a time on getting H's bike registered.
Something to do with the bike not being homolgated. I can't remember
the model she had, but it was never sold in France. Even the
constructor didn't want to help out, IIRC.

Here's the post:

http://groups.google.fr/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/browse_frm/thread/c2d67
cbbcfbf7b79/91c50fa07d4d669b?lnk=st&q=dog+group%3Auk.rec.motorcycles+reg
ister+bike+France&rnum=1&hl=en#91c50fa07d4d669b

See post 11 from me. From dog.

Ace may have more info though. Did you ever get that 400/4 registered
over here, Ace?

 

The key point will be whether the model you have was homologated in
France. I've not done this in France, but did get the Volvo registered
in Switzerland, weher I'm fairly sure they used the VIN to identify
the specific model. Sounds like yours isn't identifiable that way, so
I reckon you should be safe. As long as the 387cc model was imported
into France...

Don't think that would make any difference, would it? Unless you're
thinking of leaving it on UK plates, in which case why would you
bother with an MOT?

Exactly what I was going to say.

No I didn't, and if I had it would prolly have been on Swiss plates,
not Frog. But in either case it would have been a doddle, as the model
was officially inported into both countries.

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Well, this is dodgy territory on the continent.

Many expats I knew took their car back yearly to blighty to get an MOT,
but the law in Italy says you have to re-register the car on italese
plates after 6 months.

All the local Italian plod knew all our cars had been over there for
more than 6 months, but we never got (into) any trouble.

UK insurance is an issue too. Only very few insurers do continental 12
month cover (which having no MOT will invalidate in the event of a
smash - quite an occupational hazard in Rome , and normal insurance
only covers for european use for up to 21 days or so a year.

Even then. the AA withdrew their European cover policy, and Italian
insurers would only insure cars on Italian plates.

A lot of people bought local cars after that, rather than have the
aggro of importing/re-registering.

Cheers

Paul.

 

This is wrong - UK insurance covers you for effectively, unlimited,
Continental use.

If you're resident on the Continong, things are different, but if you
travel aborad frequently, there's no 21-day limit that I know of.

 

All the UK insurance policies I have *do* have a clause that limits you to,
iirc, about 40 days *consecutive* use abroad without prior
notification/consent. That includes the car policy as well as the bikes.

Of course how they'd prove how long most of my bikes have been here (only
the Daytona was ridden across) is another matter in the unfortunate event of
anything happening.

Its a lot easier for me to show how many vans have been between here and the
East Mids than it is for them to show the bikes are here now..

Of course that will get progressively more difficult/annoying as MoTs and
Tax dates loom - I have to decide between keeping them UK legal and 'honest
guv' only using them over here at the 'holiday home' for a few weeks at a
time or going through the arse-ache that is getting a French reg.

Luckily the NSs and the R6 were all officially imported as is so registering
may not be too painful (depending on how happy the beaurcrat iswho I meet
first time in the prefecture). The Daytona is too powerful and would, to
get re-registered, have to be restricted and I'm not sure I can be arsed.

Dave

 

WavyDavy emerged from their own little world to say

45 days with my Royal Sun Alliance policy. It doesn't mention a limit to
the number of 45 day blocks though.

 

Ding. I thought the insurance-droid was going to have a canary when I
told her how long i'd been abroad on her policy ;-)

P.

 

Yes, my bad. I wasn't thinking of *consecutive* use, rather the number
of trips you could make.

In other words, loads of trips as long as they're all under 40-odd days.
The 21-day a year limit is still bollocks, though.

 

I blame my fading brain cells, I was thinking of consecutive days too.

But then your

"UK insurance covers you for effectively, unlimited, Continental use"

Is also bollocks ;-)

P.

 

Perhaps not. The insurance business is full of murky grey bits. Afaik,
under various EU directives any insurance policy must provide the same
cover in any EU member state as the state in which it's issued. Strictly
speaking, aiui, to limit cover is to fly in the face of the cross-border
directives and against free trade.

A prime example is that in Ireland, I could get insurance from a French
company for half the price I'm paying now, both for cars and bikes, but
Irish law prohibits any 'foreign' company offering insurance here if
they don't have an office in Ireland. I'm fairly sure this is illegal.

As always, I could be talking bollocks, and I await SWK properly.
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