Our Wimmen (a 'sorta Joke)

------Well, it probably is a dastardly thing to do, trying to steal a
southern bell from a group of Texans, but I've always liked a
challenge!--------RGDon---


--------Worse than that, Canadians!
~~~~~~~~~~BiffB~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If it's north of Texas, it's Yankee. Hell, if it ain't Texas, it might
as well be Yankee.
-Jerry-

=========That's the way I look at it. MrJayT=====

 

Oh really...who backed down at the bridge. ;^) Wasn't Alfalfa Bill
that's for damn sure. Oh and that's just the facts m'amm.

 

Unlike some people...

 

Hey, far be it from me, to presume to teach people as smart as you
guys, Jerry!

 

Even smarter than BJay, I hear! <g>

 

And me. ;-) Remember, I know how to take a joke. hehehe.
BTW, I be the Sheriff and Louie have my phone #. <g>

Sunny

 

Actually, when it comes to charity, I think the main thing is not the
total, but how much is given per capita and how much it hurts. After
all, any reasonable person would agree it's hard to say a million
people giving one penny are acting more generously than (say) 100
people giving a 100 dollars each - even though the total (to help BJay
out would still be $10,000 in both cases.

The same applies in terms of wartime casulaties. You might be very
surprised to find out how - on a per capita basis - the losses of
Canadian soldiers in the Middle East compare with U.S. figures (and,
in WWII, even much more so). Have you considered it might just be
that Canadians don't beat their chests about it quite as much?

Not that you aren't already fully informed on such things, but just in
case there's someone who isn't, the following might give a hint as to
why the worst thing you (as an American) can do is denigrate others in
ignorance:

 

You're right, Jerry, my bad. However, that was a while back and I've
slept a few times since then. I "did" have your phone number but
we've changed cell phones 3 times in the past couple of years. Joe is
carrying the only cell ph. we have now and he's headed for
Breckenridge. He's going to be laying tile this evening. I finally
found him a job! <g>

Sunny

 

Deep breaths Jerry, deep breaths.
Imagine the carnage if we just quit giving foreign aid.

 

Heh, heh. Well there's a convincing argument.

If something doesn't support what you believe, it simply "doesn't mean
anything."

And you say that while expecting someone else to extend you the
courtesy of considering what you have to say, even if it may not
support what they think.

If makes no difference at all if you like it. Per capita is a
legitimate way to compare the charitableness of countries because it
gets down to the core issue of how large a sacrifice the average
citizen in the compared countries is willing to endure. That is a
measure of their generosity as a people.

Even you wrote in those terms (i.e. buying a Goldwing); proving you
grasp that all too well.

That said, even per capita isn't perfect. Countries can still
structure their aid ways that only corporations from their own
countries get to carry out the work, funnelling much of the money back
home.

And then there's also individual, outside-of-government giving, which
shouldn't be overlooked.

I'm one of the dwindling number of people outside America who thinks
the American people are to be commended in the area of charitableness
and willingness to sacrifice for others. But that doesn't mean there
is no one else on earth who can compare and the simple suggestion of
it shouldn't be an offense.

Below, you point out that Canadians sacrificed .40% of their
population in WWII for the freedom of others, while your country
sacrificed .32%. Well, if we had sacrificed at the same rate you did
(.32%), we would have lost 36,000 men instead of 45,000.

That would have resulted in 10,000 fewer men lost. That's a lot of
lives. For our capability we put in a huge effort - one which you
probably never hear about. And you want to complain to me that *your*
country isn't appreciated enough?

And then there's Iraq and Afghanistan, like you say. True, you lost
more men there overall (but not 10,000 more). But that's you fighting
in *two* wars - one of which, many of you here say you shouldn't have
got into in the first place.

You can't have this both ways - saying *you* shouldn't have gone there
and then castigating those who made (what you claim is) the correct
call by not going.

There's no disagreement on Afghanistan, however.

So, in terms of that war, the level of our committment in Afghanistan
would be equivalent (in terms of percentage of population) to you
losing 1,100 soldiers there. Not at all demeaning what you've done,
but I doubt you've lost quite that many soldiers in Afghanistan.
That's the point I was making. If we agree the war should be fought,
we don't stand on the sidelines and just watch. Just like in WWII,
where we essentially out-did you (in relative terms).

And then you mention the medical systemse. Your system is supposed to
be an indicator of America's generosity? That's what we were talking
about, right?

Well, facts are stubborn things. By any objective measure, the
average Canadian is in better health, lives longer, is less obese and
there are fewer infant deaths than their American counterparts, as far
as I know.

This is largely a result of a different mindset in our two countries.
Over here, there is a general conviction that when we all pull
together in the same direction, we all get much further ahead than we
would all by ourselves. It's a core belief in what a society is and
the fruits of that belief express themselves in many ways that.
That's something you might want to consider, as you see your inner
cities devolving into chaos and crime, your jails overfilling and
extremist hate groups on the rise.

As yours do you, our core beliefs are expressed quite well in our
system of medical care. I dare say that, over time, your system will
become more like ours, than ours like yours. It's because there's a
growing recognition that we *are* rich enough that, when it comes to
serious health problems of our citizens, we should be able to provide
the best care to everyone, regardless of how wealthy they are. As
someone who's recently been through a very serious illness, I can tell
you that the medical system here is very good.

But it's fine with me if you want to continue thinking what you want
to think. It doesn't hurt, so long as people can disagree
respectfully.

I don't dismiss the importance of a single, large player like your
country. That provides an opportunity for influencing international
affairs and the world should be thankful that, in the important areas,
the United States has been a determined, steadfast force for good (and
not evil) in this world. There are many who would do the exact
opposite. Just don't be deluded into thinking you have a corner on
the market when it comes to committment to do good for others. You
might need them someday.

But, in terms of what any individual has a *right* to be proud of, I
think it still boils down to how much they sacrifice on a per capita
basis, because that's when it comes down to how much of *our* money
we, as citizens, will permit our politicians to spend in those areas.
It's an indicator of how generous we are, as a people.

And, if comparisons result in countries attempting to out-do each

 

(Road Glidin' Don)
Sunny isn't property, and she can take a joke as well as the next

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unlike some people... RGDon

=====Now we're getting somewhere....this small group of texas gents,
''needs a little bit of respectful ''flaming''..(in a gentlemen'ly
manner, that is.) <g>
So, tell me,RGdonald, in your sideline observation, who the hail' are
you referring to. <?>
Name one of these 5 or 6, Texans currently responding on this very
thread, who 'cannot take a joke,''in your'' opinion??
Hail, RGdon, you are responding to a few of the most humorous actual
Riders, in Texas...reknown for being able to take a lotta ribbing, and
are quite capable of 'passing' it on......hehe.....MrjayT=

 

----RGtheDon said this:''Even smarter than BJay, I hear!  <g>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Everyone but Louie. ---Jerry!

-------And me. ;-) Remember, I know how to take a joke. hehehe. BTW, I
be the Sheriff and Louie have my phone #. <g>
Sunny---------


===hey, that is what i'm talking about, you Gal, should be assigned
Sheriff of TxMoto.ville.......glad you mentioned that...ya know we aint
had no active Sheriff in a good while.....you'd be agoodun....cause one
of the main ass qualifications, is being able to smart mouth all
dem'yankees, and ''any'' Reeky'ettes!
And lass.... but not least take a ''dern joke'', yet able to respond
accordingly...
you be the Gal. High Sheriff Sunny, the Rogue Rider.......
-MrjaytGrin=

 

That was a typo, Bjay. I dropped a "t". It was supposed to read, "I
'bet' the Sheriff and Louie have my phone #."
I don't think tx.moto needs a "High Sheriff" but if you have to assign
titles, I'll accept it for what it's worth. LOL

Sunny

 

Don't see anywhere I said that.

Wow. I didn't realize how immature you are. Looks like we're done
then!

 

Heh, heh. Hey Pender/Precision (or whatever you are today). Ya'll
come on up, ya hear? Should I tie one or both of hands behind my back
to make it a contest?

After we're done I'll treat you all to some real beer.

 

Ok, beer thread now. Do Canadians make any beer that doesn't come in a
green bottle and taste like ass, or have a french name? La Face Cachée
de la Pomme Neige Éternelle? The face of the eternal snow apple??
Seriously? Do you have to hold your pinky out when you drink that shit?
I'll drink piss warm Natural Light that's been rolling around under the
truck seat so long that the paint has worn off the can before I'll drink
something with a name like that.

You come here, we'll tour the Shiner brewery, or even better, the St.
Arnold's warehouse bay/brewery. Then you'll know beer.

Pender, where ya at? There's some dinosaurs outside that say they know
you. Looks like they brought their own Pepperidge Farms this time.

 

LOL. Speakin' of biting weines... you've been making veiled
invitations to homosexual liasons here for quite awhile, Pender. Have
you been successful yet in getting in your "hanging weinie" nibbled?

 

I'm good man. Hooked up with an aegrotocatellus I used to go to college
with.

 

Really? Don't tell me... That's how BJ got his name, right?

Ewwww, yuck.

Hey, sorry to spoil your elaborate fantasies but, over here, a guy
like yourself wouldn't find as good a reception as you do here.

 

------Hey Bjay: ''That was a typo, Bjay. I dropped a "t". It was
supposed to read, "I 'bet' the Sheriff and Louie have my phone #." I
don't think tx.moto needs a "High Sheriff" but if you have to assign
titles, I'll accept it for what it's worth. LOL
Sunny )


===sorry I jumped on that, so quick. But, a coupla of us
patrons.....have been having private electronic
communictions....'cussing who should step into that txmo
position.....then.you mis typed something and so 4th...see how that
could cause a 'ripple effect''..okay. <g></ MrJayT