Our survey says BMWs are unreliable

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Judge, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. Judge

    Judge Guest

    I was collecting my RS this evening and having sorted out the paper work, I
    was getting kitted up out the front of reception when a guy came out and
    started getting ready to leave on his GS, which he was collecting.

    He stopped for a moment and wondered over to me. The conversation went
    something like:

    Him: "How are you getting on with that?"

    Me: "It's an unreliable heap of junk."

    Him: "Yeah. So's mine. I've had three major problems. If I have another
    I'm going to dump it outside the shop and stop the payments."

    Me: "Yep. Mine's been off the road three times too and I've only just done
    6000 miles."

    Him: "I'm sick of it. Whenever it rains it just stops. Water in the
    electrics. Look at it, it's supposed to be an off road bike and I can't
    even get it wet."

    We stood there and bitched about our bikes for a while and cursed the German
    bastards for building such enticing garbage.

    Swearing a return to the Jap fold, we went on our merry way.
     
    Judge, Nov 4, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Nice words, bad move though, finance companies are cunts!
    I did say something when you 1st indicated an intention. BMW bikes
    post 1990ish are rather shite IMHO. The BMW cars lost their shining
    reliability around 94.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Nov 4, 2005
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    Steve Parry Guest


    Justification for keeping my K-RS a bit longer just made :)

    Although I really do want an R1100S

    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort


    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Nov 4, 2005
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    Buzby Guest

    Him: "Yeah. So's mine. I've had three major problems. If I have another
    You say that, I bought a reasonably expensive [1] kitchen from Moben. It
    starting falling off the wall [2]. Moben [3] really dragged their heals but
    a quick note to the finance company saying I wasn't paying anything more
    until it was fixed properly produced a satisfactory outcome pretty quickly.

    [1] for me
    [2] whole cabinet fell off the wall where my year old nephew had been
    sitting two minutes previously.
    [3] I'll never buy anything from them again
     
    Buzby, Nov 4, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    My first new Merc, an M reg., was a pile of poo too.
    What happened in 1994? The invasion of the accountants?
     
    Eiron, Nov 4, 2005
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    Steve Parry Guest


    The real financial impact of reunification set in?

    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort


    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Nov 4, 2005
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    TOG Guest

    I don't think BMW have made a truly reliable flat twin since the days
    of the old airhead boxers. The modern ones have been plagued with
    problems.
    This is rather good tactics. You are entitled to take action against
    the finance house if you want. when I bought a load of computer kit
    from Mac Warehouse, and some of it was duff, and their customer service
    people didn't want to know (to put it mildly), I informed the finance
    people, as I'd boughti t on 0% finance, that I was witholding payment
    until they sorted it.

    Which they did. Amazingly quickly.
     
    TOG, Nov 4, 2005
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    Judge Guest

    Did you ****! I never expressed an interest here before parting with my
    cash.
     
    Judge, Nov 4, 2005
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  9. I've just taken delivery of my R1200RT this afternoon, so I hope it
    won't be blighted as you suggest (and if it is, you can read about it
    here in ukrm). The 1150RT I just p/x'd gave 27k reliable miles, with a
    circlip on the glove box the only think to break (fixed under
    warranty).
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Nov 5, 2005
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  10. Judge

    Judge Guest

    Most of the non-tourer stuff is distinctively styled and pretty good looking
    and the specs are good: shaft drive, electronic ignition, cruise control,
    ABS, servo-assisted brakes, axle-less rear wheel.

    It' a shame they're slow, heavy and disintegrate when you touch them.
     
    Judge, Nov 5, 2005
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    gradelylad Guest

    I was in an office this week, the guy had a picture on his wall of him
    riding a Pan, on the Honda Test Track in the UK. (He did tell me the
    location, but I have forgot)
    I asked him how come ? He explained that when the plods used BMW, They
    had the latest model on Test, "giving it some" one day on the motorway,
    the gearbox on the BM blew up...good style, the rear wheel locked, and
    the guy that was riding it was lucky to survive. Mr German sent up a
    vehicle to collect it, and take it away for examination. Our German
    friend was not happy........"We have NEVER seen this done to one of our
    machines, its because of all the equipment you put on it. Not our
    engineering. "
    Meanwhile the UK marketing manager for Honda gets wind of this, and
    explains the problem to the jap, the jap goes away, thinks about it,
    and ............designs the Pan European, specifically designed for use
    by UK Police Forces, Apparently so I am told, a perfect bike when
    kitted up, Heavy but with precise balance....So alls well and good.
    BUT...this same UK marketing manager, is speaking to the London
    Ambulance Service, and the female paramedics that ride that bikes
    say.."Yeah..its a great bike, but its to big for us, we cant reach the
    floor when sat on it..." So...What you using now..says Mr UK Marketing
    Manager ? (I cant remember I was told) so....Mr UK, speaks to Mr Jap,
    and the "Baby Pan" is born, Better Known as the Deuville (sp).
    I spent a fascinating hour with the guy, and know what I am riding next
    year, and it AINT BMW !
     
    gradelylad, Nov 5, 2005
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    Wik Guest

    Moben are a bunch of cunts, also. However, they ain't German just
    'cause they have an umlaut in their name. It's a (reasonably) clever
    marketing ploy that suckers a lot of people.

    Not so long ago I had a close encounter of the Moben kind. Guy turns up
    at agreed time, measures up a bit and then proceeds to discuss the
    various choices and options, etc.

    All fine and dandy until he starts with the "This deal is only good for
    today" shit followed by 'phone calls to his "manager" to see if a
    special deal could be done. Yeah, right.

    Long story short, it took us an hour just to get the **** out the flat
    and only then after signing over a deposit cheque (cancelled almost
    immediately after he left).

    Bit of Googling revealed just what a shower of shit they truly are.
    Narrow escape, that.
     
    Wik, Nov 6, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    Wik emerged from their own little world to say
    I find flirting with them gets rid of 90% fairly rapidly.

    The other 10% is a bonus.
     
    wessie, Nov 6, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Beav scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    That's not exactly news, they've been on the somewhat clunky side since
    they went from four speeders to five speeders. In the mid seventies,
    that was.
    That is complete and utter bollox, that is. My GSA has servo brakes
    (because I couldn't get ABS without them any more) and the main
    difference is that with the servo on, braking becomes a single-finger
    operation. But somehow I expect that people said exactly the same when
    they started putting servos on cars...
    Granted, the finish ain't that good.
    You got this wrong, the Rockster looks really 'orrible :)
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 6, 2005
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  15. LOL!!!!!
     
    Paul Corfield, Nov 6, 2005
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    Scraggy Guest

    It was ever thus. It's a design feature.
    My R100/7 threw away top gear twice separated by about 40k. It's a great
    feeling 0230, deserted(ish) autobahn, unearthly howl just south of bollocks.
    Change down, motor on to friendly local BMW dienst who smilingly remove
    contents of (my) wallet.
     
    Scraggy, Nov 6, 2005
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    Buzby Guest

    Truly brilliant.
     
    Buzby, Nov 6, 2005
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  18. Beav, Beav.... get your eyes tested, ffs.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 6, 2005
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  19. Made me grin a bit, as well......
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 6, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    I can't imagine a situation where that would arise. Had I had enough I'd
    politely insist he left, should he refuse I'd phone the police and get
    him removed from the house.
     
    Ginge, Nov 6, 2005
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