Ouch. My limp is wrist...

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Timo Geusch, Apr 8, 2006.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Hog Guest

    Umm yes indeedy. High speed plain bearings need good oil and filtration.
     
    Hog, Apr 11, 2006
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  2. It's probably more to do with the utterly shit quality of Russian
    bearings of the day and the desperate attempts of owners to come up with
    some face-saving solution.

    All roller bearings benefit from the best oil around, up to a point. A
    decent mineral multigrade is all they need. Too good an oil will lead to
    the rollers skidding rather than turning.

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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.

    Folding@Home Team UKRM
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 11, 2006
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  3. Timo Geusch

    platypus Guest

    Surely you jest.

    The Urals also benefit - like pre-70s BMWs - from pressed-up cranks.
    Vibration from crank flex was present in the BMWs, and I don't see why it
    shouldn't have been present in Urals. In fact, there's probably thousands
    of good reasons why Urals should shag up their engines...
    This was the reason given for recommending the use of 40-weight. There's a
    guy who imports Chang Jiangs, who reckons you should use the same 40-weight
    in engine, gearbox and final drive...
     
    platypus, Apr 11, 2006
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  4. Timo Geusch

    Roger Hunt Guest

    When I take waste oil to the local recycling place is this what it might
    be turned into?
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 27, 2006
    #24
  5. Heh.

    I always wondered - do they actually re-refine waste oil into nice new
    lube, or just sort of sieve it and turn it into central heating oil or
    something?

    Anyone know for sure?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2006
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  6. Timo Geusch

    Roger Hunt Guest

    www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/downloads/oil.pdf (~45KB)

    This gives an outline of possible uses and the problems encountered.
    As I understand it, waste motor oil is likely to be loaded with toxic
    particles scraped from shagged big-end shells (we are talking SOBs here
    of course) and it is a growing challenge to manage it safely. It also
    mentions the growing proportion of synth oil and additives that makes it
    much more difficult and expensive to regenerate the stuff for further
    use as a lubricant of more than the most basic quality.

    It also mentions that only 50% of oil sold is recoverable - the rest is
    lost, probably mostly as puddles underneath old British motorcycles.
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 27, 2006
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  7. It's perfectly possible, indeed is done, to recycle used oil. Left to
    stand or centrifuged, filtered, new additive package - cheap 20/50 or
    10/40.

    You can certainly burn it in a waste oil burner, but such devices are
    pricey.
    Yep.
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 27, 2006
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  8. Very interesting, is that.
    Indeed:

    "Only about 50% of lubricating oils sold can be collected following use
    as it is lost or consumed during applications e.g. part losses occur due
    to combustion in engines, drips in service"
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2006
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  9. Timo Geusch

    Roger Hunt Guest

    It also occurs to me that the motor trade might only use a smallish
    proportion of all lubricating oil - there is the huge area of industry,
    machine tools, shipping, rail etc and I have no idea how much is used in
    total.
    More Googling needed I think ...
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 28, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest

    This must be where I mention the TI Power Wheel - a powered rear wheel
    designed to motorise a bicycle. One of its weird features was that it
    could recycle its 2-stroke oil. The exhaust gases passed over the
    transmission so that any unburnt oil would lubricate the gears. It then
    dripped its way to the bottom where in collected in a little container -
    ready to be mixed back into the next lot of fuel.

    Strangely, the Power Wheel never got beyond the prototype stage.
     
    Naqerj, Apr 28, 2006
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  11. For which we are all thankful.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 28, 2006
    #31
  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    Wasn't it considered for the Basenji at one point?

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    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 29, 2006
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  13. Indeed, a pair was tried on the prototype with some success, so much so
    that Spagthorpe decided to press on with all four wheels being Power
    Wheels, and steal a march on the competition by introducing the first
    British PAWD car.
    The only slight drawback to the plan was the tendency for oil splatter
    from the front wheels to soak the driver and passenger, which
    necessitated them being dressed like WW1 fighter pilots. Spagthorpe
    introduced a quick-change goggle apparatus to help in forward
    visibility, but it proved to be unreliable, more than one unlucky
    customer finding the automatic change arm stuck firmly up one or both
    nostrils at speed.

    Another flaw in the design was the tendency for the entire front end of
    the car to burst into flames when left sitting overnight, the castor oil
    of the time having an unfortunate tendency to self-ignite when left for
    more than a few hours in the open air.
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
    Every post contains Nutri-Ceramide-R and Pre-Biotics
    for your reading pleasure.
    Folding@Home Team UKRM
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 29, 2006
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  14. Somebody has to do it, else all those models will be lost forever, like
    cheap bearings in bad oil.
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
    Every post contains Nutri-Ceramide-R and Pre-Biotics
    for your reading pleasure.
    Folding@Home Team UKRM
    http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=47957
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 2, 2006
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  15. Timo Geusch

    Hog Guest

    Leave my XS650 out of this please
     
    Hog, May 2, 2006
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