[QUOTE] Ta Try this one: DE7 6 to anywhere in Wolverhampton. Mine sends me to the A61 to get to the A38 as it doesn't know about the A6/A5111 relief road and then after A38 mine says to take the A5 when the M6 Toll runs parallel to the A5 and takes about half the time... [/QUOTE] Brief version from mine A615 ->A615/B6013 ->A615 -> A61 ->A38 -> A5148 -> M6 TOLL -> UNAMED ROADS X3 -> A460 T8 -> M54 - etc So M6 toll is definitely in there. Do you want a copy of my maps?